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Defector: Sinking of Cheonan a provocation meant to trick South into military response
East-Asia-Intel.com ^ | 4/28/2010 | East-Asia-Intel.com

Posted on 05/01/2010 4:27:29 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

High-ranking North Korean defector Hwang Jang-Yop said it was "obvious" the communist regime's ruler Kim Jong-Il masterminded the blast of the recent South Korean warship that left 40 dead and six missing.

Hwang, who was a secretary of the North's ruling Workers' Party in charge of foreign policy when he took asylum in South Korea in 1997, said Kim wanted to trigger chaos in South Korea and shake its economy by blasting a warship.

"North Korea has always been a terrorist nation. The regime launches terror attacks on its own people as well as foreigners," Hwang said in a newspaper interview. "Kim Jong-Il intends to achieve his goal by expanding terror attacks on the southern part of the peninsula," referring to South Korea.

The defector said South Korea should not retaliate militarily, which would turn the peninsula into a "dirty" war area, something the North would like. "If we retaliate, the peninsula will turn into a dirty war zone like the Palestinian territories. We must not be drawn into their scheme," Hwang said.

He also said South Korea should make China participate in the investigation. The probe is being conducted by 43 civilian and military experts, including some from the U.S., Australia and Sweden.

"China and Russia should be made aware of the disaster so that they understand that our response is justified," Hwang said. "And if Kim Jong-Il takes more provocative measures, they must be punished ruthlessly.

"The regime is oppressive and is always trying to use violence both internally and against other countries. It must be taught a painful lesson," he said.

The 1,200-ton South Korean corvette mysteriously sank on March 26 during a routine patrol near the tense border with North Korea.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cheonan; kimjongil; koreanpeninsula; northkorea; northkoreannavy; pcc772; rokn; southkorea; terrorist
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1 posted on 05/01/2010 4:27:30 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

I used to be something of a Korea expert. Sounds about right to me.


2 posted on 05/01/2010 4:29:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“Trick”? That doesn’t quite fit... though “bait” does. Maybe there’s a translation issue to blame for that.


3 posted on 05/01/2010 4:30:05 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: sonofstrangelove

Hi Sonofstrangelave!

I sadly guessed a while ago that a torpedo from a sub sank the Cheonan and killed all those fine young men - what a tragedy!

Verification gives me NO satisfaction, but I agree with you President Lee has done a splendid job on handling this horrible attack.

The following has popped up and I’m interested in getting your opinion. It seems more like something out of a James Bond 007 novel, but with Kim Jong Il one never knows what kinds of adventures he will embark upon.

EU Times:

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/us-orders-blackout-over-north-korean-torpedoing-of-gulf-of-mexico-oil-rig/

OAMA ORDERED MEDIA BLACKOUT

A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.

To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it “severely deviated” from its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.

To the reason for North Korea attacking the Deepwater Horizon, these reports say, was to present US President Obama with an “impossible dilemma” prior to the opening of the United Nations Review Conference of the Parties to the Treat on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) set to begin May 3rd in New York.

This “impossible dilemma” facing Obama is indeed real as the decision he is faced with is either to allow the continuation of this massive oil leak catastrophe to continue for months, or immediately stop it by the only known and proven means possible, the detonation of a thermonuclear device.

Russian Navy atomic experts in these reports state that should Obama choose the “nuclear option” the most viable weapon at his disposal is the United States B83 (Mk-83) strategic thermonuclear bomb having a variable yield (Low Kiloton Range to 1,200 Kilotons) which with its 12 foot length and 18 inch diameter, and weighing just over 2,400 pounds, is readily able to be deployed and detonated by a remote controlled mini-sub.

Should Obama choose the “nuclear option” it appears that he would be supported by the International Court of Justice who on July 8, 1996 issued an advisory opinion on the use of nuclear weapons stating that they could not conclude definitively on these weapons use in “extreme circumstances” or “self defense”.

On the other hand, if Obama chooses the “nuclear option” it would leave the UN’s nuclear conference in shambles with every Nation in the World having oil rigs off their coasts demanding an equal right to atomic weapons to protect their environment from catastrophes too, including Iran.

To whatever decision Obama makes it remains a fact that with each passing hour this environmental catastrophe grows worse. And even though Obama has ordered military SWAT teams to protect other oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from any further attack, and further ordered that all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico be immediately stopped, this massive oil spill has already reached the shores of America and with high waves and more bad weather forecast the likelihood of it being stopped from destroying thousands of miles of US coastland and wildlife appears unstoppable.

And not just to the environmental catastrophe that is unfolding the only devastation to be wrecked upon the United States and South Korea by this North Korean attack as the economic liabilities associated with this disaster are estimated by these Russian reports to be between $500 Billion to $1.5 Trillion, and which only a declaration of this disaster being an “act of war” would free some the World’s largest corporations from bankruptcy.

Important to note too in all of these events was that this was the second attack by North Korea on its South Korean enemy, and US ally, in a month as we had reported on in our March 28th report titled “Obama Orders ‘Immediate Stand-down’ After Deadly North Korean Attack” and which to date neither the Americans or South Korea have retaliated for and giving one senior North Korean party leader the courage to openly state that the North Korean military took “gratifying revenge” on South Korea.

And for those believing that things couldn’t get worse, they couldn’t be more mistaken as new reports coming from Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic “Rodong” missile which Russian Space Forces experts state is able to “deploy and detonate” an atomic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device, and which if detonated high in the atmosphere could effectively destroy the American economy for years, if not decades, to come.

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“17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops”?

Does such a corps exist in North Korea’s armed forces?


4 posted on 05/01/2010 4:44:15 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Chia head is losing his grip, what does he have to lose.


5 posted on 05/01/2010 4:44:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SatinDoll

Yes. North Korea reportedly formed such squads in each branch of the military after leader Kim Jong-il said during the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 that no military in the world can defeat an army that can carry out suicide bombings.


6 posted on 05/01/2010 4:47:07 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: SatinDoll

‘Does such a corps exist in North Korea’s armed forces?”

yes it does exist, some argument as to how many and how well equipped though.


7 posted on 05/01/2010 4:47:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

10-15 years ago they had a group that in order to become a full member they had to sneak into SK, kill someone, and make it back. It happened a few times a year.


8 posted on 05/01/2010 4:49:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Obama being pawned by a deranged midget who has one set of clothing. My how we have tanked as a nation that once roared. Thanks Bambi!
9 posted on 05/01/2010 4:49:04 PM PDT by Shqipo (Hey Libs-- Now that Gov't will pay for your diapers how long until you demand help putting them on?)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Thank you for the information.

“...Kim Jong-il said during the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 that no military in the world can defeat an army that can carry out suicide bombings.”

Really!!

Didn’t that sorry S-O-B read anything about WWII in the Pacific? The U.S. has indeed defeated opposing forces using suicide bombings.


10 posted on 05/01/2010 4:55:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I used to be something of a Korea expert.”
Being able to consume large amounts of Makli, Grape or Peach Oscar, Soju, Kimchi, fish jerky, and smoke crappy korean cigarettes isn’t the type of expert they are looking for. Never mind the business ladies. I should know. LOL!
On a serious note; as soon as I heard about this incident I knew the NKs had caused it. They were always stirring up the $hit when I was there.


11 posted on 05/01/2010 4:56:19 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: driftdiver

Thank you for the verification.


12 posted on 05/01/2010 4:56:28 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Yeah, when President Park Chung-Hee (whom I knew) was killed (by his own KCIA Director) we thought the North had done it. I was in G-2 at the I Corps TOC, boy did the fin hit the shan that night!!

Peach Oscar? Lord, that’s an old memory... Fish jerky is chegogi IIRC.


13 posted on 05/01/2010 5:02:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: SatinDoll

North Korea is said to place special priority on the naval auicide squads


14 posted on 05/01/2010 5:09:26 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

President Park Chung-Hee went cheap on us at Christmas. I got a tie clip, but the year before the boys each got a carton of smokes.
I had a buddy in MI. We caught a guy on the wire one night. Bad things happened to him until they decided that he was just one dumb slickyboy.
Chegogi, eh? I remember a dish called bulgogi or something along those lines. It was strips of meat grilled on a charcoal cooker then tossed on some rice. That was good.


15 posted on 05/01/2010 5:10:03 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: SatinDoll

Mark


16 posted on 05/01/2010 5:16:17 PM PDT by sport
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To: sonofstrangelove

Yup, sounds like provocation to me. But the ROKs won’t take the bait. Hell, they won’t even respond after Seoul is attacked and occupied.


17 posted on 05/01/2010 5:24:29 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

I still eat Bulgogi and Kalbi when I can. Chegogi was that dried gray flat fish that you tore into strips like jerky at the movies or in a bar. Remember the bags of fried shrimp or fries for about 1000 won that you bought off a wagon or in a little hole-in-the-wall shop? I worked with ROK officers and enlisted, so I got to go to their homes every now-and-then. Good eats!!


18 posted on 05/01/2010 6:31:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

I must’ve seen you in TDC in 83.


19 posted on 05/01/2010 6:46:03 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I got my deros orders at a mogo stand wrapping up yaki mon du before I got them from personnel. True!


20 posted on 05/01/2010 6:49:47 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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