Red & jeremiah,
Y’all want to understand Mr Rogers’ motive? His is not unlike mine. We believe the birther narrative, especially the perpetuation of demonstrably false Internet rumors, damages the credibility of FR by making all of us look like insane, conspiracy theorists and racist hate mongers.
It’s perfectly acceptable to believe that Obama was ineligible to the office. I believe that. It’s perfectly acceptable to argue that position from a logical and well-thought out perspective. I do that.
What isn’t acceptable is turning on fellow freepers and conservatives simply because you disagree on one issue. Many of the freepers on the Sanity Squad have been freepers since ‘97 and ‘98 - longer than most birthers. To call them trolls, Obots, and paid DOJ bloggers and question their patriotism and/or faith is unconscionable.
Drew68’s son is seven months old. His wife probably carried her son for nine months. That’s 16 months total. You believe his sole motivation is the natural born citizenship of his son, right? The eligibility threads began during the early summer of 2008. Drew’s wife probably became with child sometime in December 2008. Did you verify that Drew68 didn’t start posting on these threads until after he found out his wife was with child? Probably not. Y’all didn’t bother checking my posting history before you started launching accusations at me.
To attack another freeper’s motivations without credible evidence proves that your arguments aren’t strong enough to allow any debate. Just like liberals, you belittle those who might shine a light on the flaws in your arguments. You should welcome the opportunity to prove your case.
Is this the October Surprise ???His second post on an eligibility thread was on November 11, 2008.
Monday, October 13, 2008 9:28:22 PM · 115 of 179
Drew68 to Terry MrossThis would all be over if Obama’s opponent would simply ask in the next debate, “Senator, why don’t we get rid of all the distractions in this campaign? You can do that by presenting your birth certificate.”
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
You can't be serious? Like that'll ever happen!
Dear Lord, Make It Stop (National Review: Give Up the Obama isn't a citizen argument)So, there goes your theory that he's taking Obama's side merely because he wants his son to be a NBC. In October 2008, he didn't yet know he was having a son.
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:50:09 PM · 18 of 354
Drew68 to conservative catI don’t think he’s a citizen, but I think it’s a lost cause.
It will be a thorn in his side that follows him throughout his administration just as "selected not elected" followed Bush. It won't amount to anything. People are going to pontificate on the internet about our "Kenyan president" while Obama sits in the Oval Office signing legislation.
What you guys do is attack the whole eligibility issue by attacking Taitz. Taitz rambled some speaking with PSMNBC one time and got branded, She may not be the best lawyer out there but she is persistent. Your ping list is full of After-Birthers. And a few inaccuracies from our side does not prove that Obama is a natural born citizen.
damages the credibility of FR by making all of us look like insane, conspiracy theorists and racist hate mongers.
Oh please with your nonsense. Don't believe the MSNBC and their allies race baiter's sing song. Race has nothing to do with the eligibility issue. The issue is about Obama being an usurper, and to make matters worst and dire for the country, he is a Marxist to boot.
It’s perfectly acceptable to believe that Obama was ineligible to the office.
So what do you believe?
It’s perfectly acceptable to argue that position from a logical and well-thought out perspective.
Which the issue of Obama not being eligible as president has been over the last 2 years.
Drew68’s son is seven months old. His wife probably carried her son for nine months. That’s 16 months total. You believe his sole motivation is the natural born citizenship of his son, right?
It is a motive. Drew68 brought it up that he wants his son to be a natural born citizen, whether it is "his sole motive" we just don't know. I do know however, that trolling these eligibility threads for over a year which seems to be on a daily basis makes people wonder about his motivations.
What isn’t acceptable is turning on fellow freepers and conservatives simply because you disagree on one issue.
What is acceptable is pointing out to how silly and weak their arguments are week after week, day after day, and their total disregard to large and mounting evidence against Obama.
Many of the freepers on the Sanity Squad have been freepers since ‘97 and ‘98 - longer than most birthers.
Sanity Squad? So the rest of us are insane? LoL. Some of those after-birthers have been zotted see steve-b.
To attack another freeper’s motivations without credible evidence proves that your arguments aren’t strong enough to allow any debate. Just like liberals, you belittle those who might shine a light on the flaws in your arguments. You should welcome the opportunity to prove your case.
Credible evidence? Your side's evidence is as weak as a wet noodle. I'll post a long list of evidence that says Obama is an usurper right after I get done with this post. I get blunt sometimes with knuckleheads who need a spanking because they just drone on spouting the Obot Obama line everyday in some way at BS'ing or at least misleading and mitigating the overwhelming evidence against Obama.
You should welcome the opportunity to prove your case.
I do and many others do on a constant basis on FR. However, the opposition have come nowhere close, light years away, to even matching the evidence against Obama who is purported to be natural born citizen.
1. The arguments attacking those who question 0bama’s eligilibty have been dissected and taken apart repeatedly. Then, the same defeating arguments (what few there are, actually pretty sparse) are trotted out again and yet again.
2. Motivation is fair game. Some who are now gone were most likely hirelings; some posted or still post on DU - like MilSpecRob, posted on Politjab or whatever it’s called; he just got banned the other day. Others have admitted it’s fun to harass.
Actually many of the harassers have been banned. So I guess you’d say that they were all great guys and didn’t deserve it? Or they weren’t heroes like yourself? Just fake ones?
You claim that disucssing and researching about 0bama’s eligibility makes “us” (?) look like kooks and the harassers of those discussing it are now the Sanity Squad. I cannot even express my contempt at your arrogance. Old signup date means nothing. I’ve seen trolls as well as regular freepers with both early signup dates and few comments, or many.
Motive is fair game.