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To: Mr Rogers

1 - I thought Lakin will have his butt handed to him, and said so. Within minutes, I was attacked as a traitorous troll who hates America. That made it personal.

2 - Reading the cases has been enlightening. I strongly disagree with how the courts have ruled in many areas, but it doesn’t help anyone to ignore what they have ruled. When someone says ‘Everyone KNOWS the Founder’s relied on Vattel’s definition’, they ignore both the facts and the case history - and that is a good way to lose future cases.


1. You were posting on the eligibility threads long before Lakin was on the radar.

2. Nonsense - there are many here who have legal backgrounds, and/or are working attorneys, and/or have done their research, and have proved you wrong over and over and over again. So you’re saying you “just want to help”?

Don’t make me laugh.

Plus, Vattal is but one small point of discussion. I detect you are not telling your real motives.


416 posted on 05/03/2010 10:26:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: little jeremiah; Red Steel

“1. You were posting on the eligibility threads long before Lakin was on the radar.”

Nope. I got involved when I posted on a Lakin thread.

“have proved you wrong over and over and over again.”

Not hardly. Those who have proved me wrong have been shown to BE wrong in case after case. Birthers are still waiting for a win. Or a Congressman who will support them. Or a state official or legislature.

They claim Obama is ineligible for office because of his father - yet it was all known, and that argument rejected by the states, voters, McCain, the GOP, Sarah Palin, Coulter, Malkin, Rush, the Electoral College, Congress and ignored by the Supreme Court.

This is explained as a conspiracy, such as the conspiracy to make McCain the candidate. All those voters who voted for McCain...not me, I loathe him and campaigned for Fred Thompson and then voted for Romney to try to block McCain in Arizona...but all those voters? Just imaginary. It was really party bosses pulling strings.

Meanwhile, Red Steel imagines Rush and others support him because...well, because they could, they just don’t because they are keeping it secret.

Y’all live in fantasy land, which is probably why you don’t mind lying about what others have written.


418 posted on 05/03/2010 11:07:02 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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