[Mr Rogers]

The only birther objection I have a strong opinion on is saying that the citizenship of Obama’s father makes Obama ineligible. Let’s face it - that wasn’t unknown or hidden from view during the campaign.

I’m not sure what your other 3 are, but the “2 citizen” rule gets my goat. If you want to share the other 3, I’ll be glad to listen.

My other strong objection is the idea that a member of the military should refuse deployment until he has proof of Obama’s eligibility. I figure if someone has that strong an objection, they should resign their commission and fight it as a civilian. I deployed far more times than I can count, and it always pissed me off when someone tried to skip a deployment.

[Bellflower]

All patriots in the US armed forces should resign and join citizen armies. We have a right to citizen armies under the Constitution. We may mightily need them before this is over (I hope not).
Let the US armed forces realize who their mighty warriors really are and that they ARE loyal to The Constitution of The United States of America.

[Natural Born 54]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2504335/posts?page=1

Follow the links to the videos and you will find my answer to your justification - “that it wasn’t unknown” about Barry’s father issue.

The fact that the 2 citizen rule gets your goat doesn’t matter. It is part of the definition of “natural born”.

The fact that you would look the other way on the 2 citizen rule and you apparently have contempt for Lakin tells me that you and I have no common ground for further discussion.

[Uncle Chip]

The only birther objection I have a strong opinion on is saying that the citizenship of Obama’s father makes Obama ineligible. Let’s face it - that wasn’t unknown or hidden from view during the campaign.

It sure was and it still is, not that his father was a Kenyan, but that his father being a Kenyan made him ineligible.

Few even here had never heard of Vattel, or historian founder Ramsay, or Breckenridge Long, or the dicta of Supreme Court cases defining "natural born citizen" before the election, even though we have an educated political class made up of lawyers and scholars who have access to that information and yet through negligence or malice kept that information under wraps.

We in the last year have just taken the wraps off our past in this regard and our ruling class doesn't like it.

We're supposed to remain dumb, gullible and happy and subservient to the babble they feed us. Well -- we're Americans and fully capable of self-sufficiency and getting our own food instead of sitting at their table begging for crumbs and singing their silly songs.

When will you grow up and do the same???