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To: RegulatorCountry; Mr Rogers
Irrespective of the 14th Amendment, Minor v. Happersett, or Wong Kim Ark, I simply cannot get past this statement by the U.S. Department of State:

In any event, the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes.

The government agency responsible for investigating citizenship claims and issuing passports to U.S. citizens recognizes that there is no definitive ruling or law on the meaning of "natural born citizen" as it applies to the Constitution.

The only citizens whose status as Constitutional natural born citizens is absolutely unquestionable are those born here to two citizen parents. Every other citizen's status is subject to interpretation.

328 posted on 05/02/2010 12:12:32 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The only citizens whose status as Constitutional natural born citizens is absolutely unquestionable are those born here to two citizen parents. Every other citizen's status is subject to interpretation.

That paraphrases the words of Chief Justice Morrison Remick Waite in Minor v. Happersett, as well as numerous, prior Supreme Court Justices and several Founders themselves. It can't possibly be more clear, but here we sit going round and round with people who think statute law governs the birth status of the natural born.

Lawyers argue statute law, legal precedent and such, but the the inferior statutory law doesn't make a natural born citizen, the superior Constitutional law does; Natural Law is the basis of that Constitution, and God is the basis of Natural Law.

Can't go admitting that, now, can we, lol? It's against the fictional atheism of the separation of church and state. The Founders precluded a State church, such as the Church of England, that is what they did with the so-called "establisment clause." They did not countenance State-enforced atheism. Public, individual professions of a religious nature were common and widespread at the highest levels of government. The Mosaic Law was proudly and prominently displayed in a majority of courthouses, and still is.

This, combined with the likely preclusion of unfettered immigration by a correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment, provides us with the reasons for such a frenzied, irrational, spaghetti-against-the-wall propaganda front by those who would undo the Republic. They want the Republic absorbed into some thing more amenable to their ends.

The Constitution properly understood stands in their way. And, it's not all that inaccessible nor is it all that difficult to understand. Those who make it complex, difficult to understand and intricately detailed are those who seek to circumvent the plain meaning. The devil is in those details.

330 posted on 05/02/2010 12:54:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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