You’re not understanding the birther view.
It’s that he’s not eligible because he doesn’t meet the Constitutional requirements. Nothing to do with whether he’s American.
“Being American isn’t some magic key to enlightenment.”
This comment reveals beyond all doubt that you are in fact a tired old liberal. The idea that birthers might believe being American is a “magic key to enlightenment” cannot be inferred from a conservative perspective.
It’s that he’s not eligible because he doesn’t meet the Constitutional requirements. Nothing to do with whether he’s American.
“Being American isn’t some magic key to enlightenment.”
This comment reveals beyond all doubt that you are in fact a tired old liberal. The idea that birthers might believe being American is a “magic key to enlightenment” cannot be inferred from a conservative perspective.”
Actually, you didn't read my comments very carefully, and your responses are specifically missing the point.
I wasn't even discussing the NBC issue. What I was specifically discussing was a comment that started this thread. That comment stated Obama was somehow not fully American because one of his parents was not an America citizen, that he was, in fact, only half-American. From a citizenship perspective, that is simply untrue; I further think it serves to undermine the credibility of arguments against his actual policies, and is kind of pointless since most of our Marxists are home grown with two citizen parents. I also made a specific point of distinguishing that issue from the NBC issue more commonly debated in these threads.
I made the comment about being American not being some key to Enlightenment for a specific reason. The implicit idea behind the half-American idea is that it is the foreign taint which produces policies inimical to conservative principles. That is also not true. Plenty of Americans with two citizen parents have liberal philosophical outlooks that embrace socialism to varying degrees. So obviously having a foreign parent is no critical factor. That should also not be surprising given that socialism and Marxism are creations of Western culture and thus inevitably have worked their way into our own national fabric as well.
I do understand the birther view. It simply had nothing specifically to do with the question at hand. The clear answer regarding Obama is that he has leftist principles in common with many other Americans. His parentage is irrelevant to that fact. Bringing it up simply weakens any philosophical arguments brought to bear from a conservative perspective.
Now, if you want to argue the birther issue, obviously Obama’s parentage can be considered relevant. I will gladly concede that even though I think the Birthers are wrong and won't get anywhere with the two-citizen-parent arguments. And as I also noted, the best game changer in that regard would be credible evidence that Obama was not actually born in the United States. Get that, and you've clearly got something potentially meaningful in a way I don't think the two-citizen-parent argument ever will be.