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To: Drew68

Well, Obama is not. He was born a half-African and Muslem and was taken to live and be raised in a foreign nation as a citizen of another country. He was not intended to be an American citizen.


19 posted on 05/01/2010 1:39:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Jim Robinson
He was not intended to be an American citizen.

From all that I've read, he was raised to be purely Anti-American in every way, shape, and form.

25 posted on 05/01/2010 1:42:43 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: Jim Robinson
He was born a half-African and Muslem and was taken to live and be raised in a foreign nation as a citizen of another country. He was not intended to be an American citizen.

And yet 69 million American voters thought he was a swell guy. Sadly, this is more of a testament the nation we've become than an indictment of Obama himself.

50 posted on 05/01/2010 2:00:08 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Jim Robinson; Drew68

“Well, Obama is not. He was born a half-African and Muslem and was taken to live and be raised in a foreign nation as a citizen of another country. He was not intended to be an American citizen.”

Bill Ayers is a natural born citizen beyond anyone’s doubt, and an America hating socialist. Rev Wright is a natural born citizen by anyone’s standard, and an America hating social/racist hateful ass.

Obama is disqualified from the Presidency by his views, but the voters disagreed. But by the legal standards in place years before anyone heard of Obama, his being the son of a British and later Kenyan citizen doesn’t disqualify him.

The dissent of United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) noted what the decision was doing:

“Considering the circumstances surrounding the framing of the Constitution, I submit that it is unreasonable to conclude that “natural-born citizen” applied to everybody born within the geographical tract known as the United States, irrespective of circumstances, and that the children of foreigners, happening to be born to them while passing through the country, whether of royal parentage or not, or whether of the Mongolian, Malay or other race, were eligible to the Presidency, while children of our citizens, born abroad, were not.”

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZD.html

The Indiana courts were following the years of legal tradition that followed WKA when they wrote:

“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States [] natural-born citizens.””

Unless the Supreme Court overturns the reasoning used in WKA, Obama’s father has nothing to do with Obama being or not being a natural born citizen. And if the Supreme Court had the stomach to overturn WKA, they would have done so in Dec 2008 - BEFORE Obama was certified as President. I don’t think there is ANY chance the SCOTUS will decide part way thru Obama’s term that information known to them PRIOR to his election has suddenly disqualified him from holding office.

Even if they did, the public outcry would be against the Court, not Obama. It wouldn’t take Congress a week to pass an amendment to the Constitution, and not much longer for the states to ratify it.

The people of America ultimately get what they want. Obama needs to be beaten at the ballot box, and on individual laws that go outside the government’s authority...which would be most of what has passed, unfortunately.

But no Court is going to overturn the reasoning of WKA and try to insist that Congress throw Obama out of office. Won’t happen. Not unless he was born outside of Hawaii.

I cannot stop folks from giving cash to birther cases, but the money would be better spent going to conservative candidates, and in educating people what America is really about. The Court had a chance to stop Obama’s election, and they punted. They won’t change now.


160 posted on 05/01/2010 4:50:11 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, just take a look at his “about” (profile) page, you don’t need to go further to understand what we daily get from this guy. And yesterday and today Star Traveler hijacked another thread regardless Admin Mod. reminded her of your previous warning!!!


262 posted on 05/01/2010 9:19:31 PM PDT by danamco (")
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