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To: myself6

“Texans need to “convince” their elected officials that it would be in their (and their states) best interest to back up Arizona.”

I have a problem with the Arizona law, to be honest. The idea that police can demand papers if there is a “reasonable” suspicion someone is illegal is too vague and open to abuse. It will also likely be struck down on Constitutional grounds.

In my opinion, enforcing immigration law consistently whenever someone has violated the law would be a better idea. Right now in most states if an illegal is pulled over or otherwise detained there are no immigration consequences. You could also add other concrete criteria such as “did not speak English” (combined with enforcing English as the national language - what a concept!). Finally, employers should be required to check citizenship, and the IRS should stop ignoring duplicate use of Social Security numbers.

I’d also support harsher penalties for repeat returnees, perhaps escalating periods of forced, non-compensated labor. I also love the idea of deporting “anchor babies” along with their parent(s).

The other problem is that to a large extent the “illegal immigration” horse has already left the barn. We have millions of Hispanics here as newly minted legal residents/citizens, and they’re outbreeding all other ethnic groups. It’s time for the “stupid white people” to realize that having small families will lead to eventual irrelevance and extinction, at least until there’s a level playing field. Large families have their drawbacks, but they have upside as well. :-) It’d also be good for the lowest folk on the intelligence/social totem pole to not be the most prolific breeders, for the good of society in general.


27 posted on 04/30/2010 5:45:06 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

WILL YOU PLEASE STOP! The AZ law requires that public safety officers have to have already detained the person for other reasons before they can even entertain the possibility that the person is not here legally. Your extensive post then goes on to require that the law say EXACTLY WHAT THE LAW DOES SAY! Given this, what can possibly be your real objection??

Good grief!!


30 posted on 04/30/2010 5:49:04 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Texas doesn’t need to pas the exact same law but they DO need to back up Arizona.

What really needs to happen is that the states and people who are serious about freedom need to start talking with each other, even to the point of creating a sort of “congress” between them so they can work these issues and strategies out before hand so when implemented they can present a unified front. In the end, this is how we are going to win our freedom, so we should stop procrastinating and start working towards the objective.


32 posted on 04/30/2010 5:57:00 AM PDT by myself6
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To: PreciousLiberty
I have a problem with the Arizona law, to be honest. The idea that police can demand papers if there is a “reasonable” suspicion someone is illegal is too vague and open to abuse. It will also likely be struck down on Constitutional grounds.

Oh good, then I don't have to bother to get my drivers license renewed. I've always hated those pictures and if we don't have to give our "papers" to the police when we're stopped for a ticket, then I won't need a license.

34 posted on 04/30/2010 5:58:11 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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To: PreciousLiberty

If it walks like an illegal, talks like an illegal, it probably is an illegal.
If an officer walks up to a group of Hispanics hanging out in front of a Home Depot and the officer ask a couple of them, “where do you live?” and they reply, “over there”, in Spanish, that is reasonable suspicion because first they are loitering and second “over there” is not an answer worthy of eliminating reasonable suspicion. The reason they don’t give a real address is in fear of ratting out the 50 other illegals living in one house or apartment.


42 posted on 04/30/2010 6:26:00 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: PreciousLiberty
The idea that police can demand papers if there is a “reasonable” suspicion someone is illegal is too vague and open to abuse.

Wrong. This law will only affect illegal alien scum NOT Americans.

54 posted on 04/30/2010 7:13:37 AM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: PreciousLiberty

You’ve been spun by media misinformation. In fact, the AZ bill does what you propose,no more, no less.


58 posted on 04/30/2010 7:33:10 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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