I certainly do see that birthers are indeed, true believers.
To sincerely believe “lying” motivates the birther agenda is incompetence on a level of severe mental deficiency. Your use of language shows you don’t have severe mental deficiency, so I can be fairly certain you are manipulating.
We were talking about motivation for repeating rumors that have been demonstrated to be false; that would make "lying" the behavior that is precipitated by some other motivating factor, not the motivation itself.
If repeating rumors that have been proven to be false isn't manipulation, I don't know what is. IMHO, the shoe here is clearly on the other foot.
You had another little slip there with the accusation of “hate.” Along with “racism” it’s one of those most often used by leftists, because leftists truly don’t understand their own motives are left with no option but to fling nonsense at their opponents.
Again, we are talking about those birthers who perpetuate rumors that are false, have been proven to be false.
So then, your assertion is that birthers are at the same time true believers and manipulating liars. Self-contradiction is the most common sign of deceptiveness.
(And my accusations here of deceptive intent are directed toward a single poster and backed up by specific examples. Your accusations of deceptive intent (which always occurs on the level of an individual) are directed toward a group, with only generalized examples.)