Posted on 04/29/2010 11:38:41 AM PDT by K-oneTexas
Were ANY of the Founding Fathers “natural born citizens” of the United States?
No… they were not. Not even one of the Founding Fathers was a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, even though some of them had indeed been (native) born on what would become U.S. soil.
None of them were “natural born citizens” because all of the Founding Fathers were born prior to the existence of the United States of America. No one could be the “natural born citizen” of a nation that did not yet exist.
America declared its independent status as a sovereign nation on July 4, 1776, breaking away from England and British rule. But the United States of America was not formed until September of 1787, with the ratification of the U.S. Constitution. The Founders had no choice but to exempt themselves from Article II—Section I—Clause V of the Constitution they wrote and ratified. But there would be no other exemptions or exceptions from that moment forward.
American citizens had better wake up and take action fast, as there is little time left to right their ship!
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The Constitution says that the President-elect must take the oath of office "before entering upon the Execution of" the office of POTUS. Obama is presently executing the office of POTUS.
I don't think it's a given that Obama can be removed by the courts. They can rule on his eligibility (I don't think they will) but it would probably be up to Congress to actually remove him. And I think they'd have to pass legislation mandating how to remove a sitting POTUS who is found to be ineligible to the office he holds.
Even then Obama is such an arrogant thug, he'd probably challenge any such legislation. He has no honor. So he wouldn't resign voluntarily.
Your thoughts?
They didn’t. That’s my point. Since the term is not defined within the Constitution, we must look elsewhere for the definition. We have Vattel’s definition as convincing evidence of what the FF intended. But even then, Vattel’s definition is man’s definition, not God’s.
They didn’t. That’s my point. Since the term is not defined within the Constitution, we must look elsewhere for the definition. We have Vattel’s definition as convincing evidence of what the FF intended. But even then, Vattel’s definition is man’s definition, not God’s.
Until then, the law of man has found the terms “Citizen-at-birth,” “native-citizen,” and “natural born citizen” to be synonomous and they are used interchangeably in several US Supreme Court decisions.
For example, the 1964 US Supreme Court decision in Schneider v Rusk (377 US 163) uses native born and natural born interchanageably: “We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the “natural born” citizen is eligible to be President. Art. II S 1.
Distinctions between native-born and naturalized citizens in conncection with foreign residence are drawn in the Constitution itself. Only a native-born may become President. Art.II Section 1.”
“The address given for the parents in the newspaper announcements is actually, however, the August 1961 home address of Obama’s maternal grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham [6085 Kalanianaole Highway], and not the 1961 home address of Barack Obama, Sr. [625 11th Ave].)”
But the 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy address ALSO was the listed address for Anne Dunham. It’s reasonable to infer from her being enrolled in school in Seattle for fall 1961 classes that by the time of the birth, she and Sr. were already estranged. So it is not surprising that her address rather than his would have been listed on BC. I don’t think that the address used in the newspaper announcements provides strong evidence one way or the other about whether Obama actually was born in Honolulu or merely had a BC applied for after being born somewhere else.
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