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To: MNJohnnie; demshateGod

>>False, the president and congress can do anything they want.
>
>No they cannot. US Military personnel have a legal, as well as a moral, obligation to disobey illegal orders. They know this full well and take it very seriously. The vast bulk of the US Military is NOT going to fire on it’s own people. More likely they will join them.

I think the point he was making is that the Congress and the President are acting as if they are not bound by the Constitution... and the simple matter is he’s right.

Where in the Constitution does it:
- Authorize the SELECTIVE taxation of individuals (AIG, etc)?
- Authorize the RETROACTIVE taxation of said individuals?
* Both are prohibited as Bills of Attainder and Ex Post Facto Law, respectively.
- National, Federally mandated healthcare?
* The ninth and tenth amendments reserve the rights not SPECIFICALLY given to the Federal government to the States or People themselves.
- The existence and funding of the BATF, a federal agency.
* We repealed the Amendment allowing for the federal prosecution of Alcohol related crime; Tobacco has never been so restricted; and the Second Amendment prohibits infringement on the keeping and bearing of arms... which is what the BATF does.


180 posted on 04/29/2010 7:20:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

That was my point, thank you.

We need to just get over the constitution and go from there. Our enemies aren’t playing by the same rules. Hm, what I’m saying isn’t really coming our right, I’m not someone who says we should fight dirty because our enemies are but there’s something between that and using the constitution as a suicide pact. We shouldn’t be saying, “We don’t need to worry about the military turning their guns on us, they took oaths and it’s in the constitution so they can’t do that.”

It reminds me of a movie a saw once where the good guys couldn’t adequately fight the bad guys because their honest nature made dishonesty inconceivable.

Wise a serpents, harmless as doves.


198 posted on 04/30/2010 11:21:26 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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