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To: allmendream
The State of Hawaii has said that they have his birth certificate on file, but have not confirmed directly that the one he is purporting to be his, does in fact match the one in their records; however they are legally obligated to denounce as fraudulent any document purporting to be an official Hawaii State document.

One would hope so, however the HI Department of Health has gone out of its way to avoid complying with other legal obligations in response to public information requests. Whatever 'legal obligation' they have is of course open to interpretation. The absence of an official state declaration of forgery doesn't inherently mean Obama's alleged COLB is legitimate.

So far none of the laws have done anything to either ‘cut out the middleman’ and get the COLB directly from the issuing State, or to authenticate the document submitted to them as an authentic COLB from a State.

The laws shouldn't need to. Such an action would only be necessary if there are questions about the authenticity of any document that has been submitted. In such a case, a state having questions about someone's credentials has the authority and legal capacity to get an official confirmation or copy of documentation from the issuing agency, at least they would if the needed one from Hawaii.

As such, this, and the other bills, do nothing to either “Free the long form”, establish the COLB on the internet as fraudulent, and they also seem to establish that any COLB showing U.S. citizenship at birth would be sufficient to be put on the Presidential ballot.

As such I wonder at these bills unalloyed support among the birthers.

Doing something is better than nothing. Lamenting assumed futility isn't really a reason not to support such an action.

70 posted on 04/30/2010 6:58:02 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919
Oh I certainly support the action.

In fact it is amazing to me that nobody thought to authenticate the necessary credentials to be on the ballot before this.

I just want people to realize that this is not the crucifix that is going to keep vampire 0bama at bay, and tamp down any exuberant delusions that this will keep 0bama off the ballot.

They will submit to each state that requires it, the Hawaii DOH computer printout COLB; and according to each state law, and the “full faith and credit” clause of the U.S. Constitution - that would be acceptable criteria to place 0bama on the Presidential ballot.

So let nobody be surprised when that happens. OK?

71 posted on 04/30/2010 7:02:17 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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