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To: IdeeFixe

How Mexico treats illegal aliens is IRRELEVANT. If the Arizona law is a good law then it’s a good law on its own merits (i.e. it’s constitutional) and does not need to be justified by comparison to what a foreign country does. Trying to demonstrate the validity of a law by comparing it to what foreign countries do is undermining the true source of its validity.

I’m not commenting on the law itself here (I don’t know its details well enough to do that, but It looks like a good law to me so far) but just on this article. In other words, is your constitution enough to justify this law? if so then whatever Mexico’s law happens to be is, or at least should be, irrelevant.


8 posted on 04/27/2010 10:02:31 PM PDT by AussieJoe
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To: AussieJoe
If the Arizona law is a good law then it’s a good law on its own merits (i.e. it’s constitutional) and does not need to be justified by comparison to what a foreign country does.

Beg to differ...it is relevant what other countries do in the overall argument. That was a huge part of the argument for socialized medicine. What other countries are doing. The same crowd always brings up the "global community" angle. How many countries in the world are you required to show your papers when asked? One can't have it both ways. Reference other countries when it suits your agenda and ignore it when it doesn't.

9 posted on 04/27/2010 10:10:28 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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Of course it's relevant, when the govt of that country (Mexico) is tearing its collective hair and screaming in agony at the horror of Arizona's extremely mild (by comparison) new law.
41 posted on 04/28/2010 11:20:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: AussieJoe
How Mexico treats illegal aliens is IRRELEVANT. If the Arizona law is a good law then it’s a good law on its own merits (i.e. it’s constitutional) and does not need to be justified by comparison to what a foreign country does. In other words, is your constitution enough to justify this law? if so then whatever Mexico’s law happens to be is, or at least should be, irrelevant.

Do you understand that foreign country's law and policies also encourage it's criminals, poor and uneducated to illegally enter the U.S.?

Even is this is argued that this Arizona law somewhat stretches the constitution slightly in favor of it's own survival and to America's benefit, so be it.

Based on the epic, violent, lawless events of the past 15 years in regards to our compromised, undermined borders, anyone opposing Arizona's new law in my opinion, should be seen as a prime suspect.

43 posted on 04/28/2010 11:34:30 AM PDT by dragnet2
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