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Nazi War Heroes In Russia
Strategy Page ^ | April 25, 2010

Posted on 04/25/2010 5:40:56 PM PDT by myknowledge

In Russia, a publisher had to quickly recall a calendar recently, issued to celebrate the Russian victory in World War II, when it was discovered four of the photographs that were supposed to be showing Soviet soldiers, actually showed German troops. The publisher admitted that they did not know what German soldiers looked like during World War II. The publisher had sent copies of the calendar layout to a veterans layout to a veterans organization for checking, but the elderly veteran who looked at the photos had very poor eyesight, and could not clearly see what the images were, and just assumed that the publishers knew what they were doing. The publisher pled ignorance, pointing out that the war was long past, and that most young Russians these days are generally unfamiliar with it.

For older Russians, who lived through the war, or in the decade after it, the conflict was not World War II, but the "Great Patriotic War." The conflict killed 18 percent of the population, a figure that was a state secret until the Cold War (and the Soviet Union) ended in 1991. Before that, the Soviet government downplayed their wartime losses, which were about twice what the Soviets would admit to. The war was a catastrophe for Russia, destroying much of the economy, in addition to causing widespread hunger and privation. It took decades to repair most of the damage, and the annual May 9th victory celebration was a big deal. It still is, at least in theory.

But by the 1970s, older Russians were beginning to complain that memories were starting to fade. Younger Russians were put off by the forced celebrations and constant propaganda extolling the efforts of the Communist Party in defeating the German invaders. When the Cold War ended, the annual parades continued, but without the forced attendance. The veterans were now dying off. The surviving ones were still shown respect, but not as much as before. And the younger generation wanted to put the Soviet past behind them. That included all the iconography of the Great Patriotic War. It got to the point where educated men, publishers of calendars commemorating the war, could not tell German from Russian soldiers. But the veterans could, and they raised their voices in protest. But soon, all the veterans will be gone, and there will be few left to complain.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: mixup; nazis; russia; warheroes
How dumbfounded can Russian publication researchers get? Mixing Soviet soldiers for Germans in a commerative calendar?
1 posted on 04/25/2010 5:40:56 PM PDT by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge
This happened here locally. A magazine describing the opening of a new veteran’s cemetery puts the picture of a Waffen SS soldier on its cover!
2 posted on 04/25/2010 5:43:12 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: myknowledge
The publisher admitted that they did not know what German soldiers looked like during World War II.

So? Neither did Uncle Joe Stalin.

3 posted on 04/25/2010 5:43:47 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: 2banana
This happened here locally. A magazine describing the opening of a new veteran’s cemetery puts the picture of a Waffen SS soldier on its cover!

Our own Kevlar helmet with it's helmet cover looks similar to the old German helmet with its cover, too.

4 posted on 04/25/2010 5:48:17 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: myknowledge

Plenty of Russians served on the German side for the chance to get back at the communists. The so-called “Vlasovites” and many others.


5 posted on 04/25/2010 5:54:55 PM PDT by Argus
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To: myknowledge
For Russian Armed Forces Day in 2006 the Russkis used a picture of the USS Missouri. Probably a shock to all those sailors on the Big Mo - all those years they were serving in the Russian Navy and they didn't even know it.

http://www.russiablog.org/2006/02/russians_glorifying_american_w.php

Little things like this happen when you put vodka in your vodka, and then chase it down with vodka.

6 posted on 04/25/2010 5:56:14 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: myknowledge

Why shouldnt the Nazis appear in Russian hero pictures.

Russia started WWII by invading Poland with their buddies, the Nazis. And they partied when they were done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=DyU4GfqF54o&feature=related


7 posted on 04/25/2010 5:58:01 PM PDT by BloodnGuts
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To: 2banana
This happened here locally. A magazine describing the opening of a new veteran's cemetery puts the picture of a Waffen SS soldier on its cover!

Please tell me you're not posting from Israel.
8 posted on 04/25/2010 5:58:16 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: Argus
Plenty of Russians served on the German side for the chance to get back at the communists. The so-called “Vlasovites” and many others.

We captured some of them. At the end of the war, they were put on a train to be handed over to the Soviets. I remember once reading about them committing suicide in the train during the trip by (amongst other things) pounding their own heads on mounted metal coat-hooks until their skulls were pierced.

9 posted on 04/25/2010 6:08:22 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Riley

The Don Cossacks forcibly repatriated by the
British. Many committed suicide and took their
families with them. They knew what awaited them.


10 posted on 04/25/2010 6:25:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Operation Keelhaul - a terrible blot on Eisenhower and Trumans record.


11 posted on 04/25/2010 6:34:59 PM PDT by BloodnGuts
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To: myknowledge

There is a massive amount of material and resources available on WWII uniforms and weapons.

The publisher is just too lazy or cheap to contact numerous experts who would have been more than happy to be post editors for the calendar, and probably for free.


12 posted on 04/25/2010 7:04:35 PM PDT by wolficatZ ((pssst) Imbedded trolls type their first sentence in lowercase..PASS THE WORD!!)
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To: myknowledge

Stalin did not like Jews, and some believe he allowed the Nazis to take care of his “Jewish Problem” for him.


13 posted on 04/25/2010 7:08:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: myknowledge

“The publisher admitted that they did not know what German soldiers looked like during World War II.”

Oy. I imagine Germans and Russians might look very similar during WWII, as they might do today. Isn’t that why they wore uniforms?


14 posted on 04/25/2010 9:12:30 PM PDT by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Don’t they have movies in Russia? How many WWII movies have been made? Recent films include Downfall, Valkyrie and Inglorious Basterds; all feature actors in German uniforms.


15 posted on 04/26/2010 4:17:51 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Navy Patriot
Neither did Uncle Joe Stalin.

That - was - freaking - BRUTAL! Huzzah! :-)

16 posted on 04/26/2010 5:47:42 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: Navy Patriot
OTOH, he did know where to hire the guys who were willing to shoot 40,000 disarmed Polish officers once each in the back of the head.

Josef Stalin - Man Of Steel, Hero of the Soviet Union.

17 posted on 04/26/2010 5:50:07 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: jocon307

The German troops wore Stahlhelms and the Soviets wore overseas caps and Red Army standard helmets.


18 posted on 04/26/2010 5:52:08 AM PDT by myknowledge (B.H. Obama's just a frontman. A frontman for who? The globalist elite, stupid!)
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