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To: BobL
What are you, some kind of homophobe?

Huh?

<Firing up reciprocal ad-hominem generator>

What are you, some kind of ________________?<Fill in the blank>

<groping around> How about "white supremacist"? That might conceivably stick as an ad-hom. I mean, why bother?

Sample:

By my estimation, the whites have no more than about 10 years to make up their minds, and another 5 years or so to get to work (if they decide to fight). After that time, there will simply be too few fighting age whites - Europe will have plenty of old whites, but far too few able to fight. -- BobL

Well guess what - the Rosenbergs were NOT GAY and they spied - therefore your argument is lost .....

Not lost on the Foreign Service, which fired hundreds of gay security risks in the 1950's and 1960's after the Philby ring was uncovered and (mostly) elucidated.

My point had been that people that are openly gay cannot be blackmailed .....

Blackmailed, maybe not -- but they're still open to compromise because of their alienation from the rest of society, and to sexual recruitment (as the Philby ring were), and so they remain just as much a security risk ipso facto their homosexuality, as a needy man with a family and lots of debt, which security services the world over likewise recognize as a security risk. Same's true for people with expensive vices like gambling and drugs -- vulnerable to collection efforts, foreclosure of same, and compromise in lieu of debt.

Just as in profiling at airports we need to get busy profiling lifestyles...at least for people in positions of power and high responsibility.

It seems we agree about that ..... but remember, too, that one of the people Sen. McCarthy confronted was trotted out by his opposition precisely because they thought she'd be a sympathetic witness to their countercharges of "persecution" (and implicit racism). She was a black coding clerk living in DC -- who just happened to have, perforce, access to classified messages and correspondence. Her case was written up by Ann Coulter in Treason -- and she was later shown to have been guilty as charged by McCarthy.

55 posted on 04/25/2010 6:56:43 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Wow - that goes back a bit. I assume you understand the context (i.e., certain countries in Western Europe - not the US). I assume you also know that EXACTLY what I refer to has already happened to the non-Muslims in Lebanon and Kosovo, and happened earlier in the century to non-Muslims in Syria and Egypt.

I guess what one calls (out of context) White Supremacy in one country, might be called trying simply stay in your own home, in your own town, in another country.

But pretty neat digging it up - that’s probably better than I could have done...and by the way, one has to have their head up their butt to think that the future I’m calling for Europe isn’t going to happen.


56 posted on 04/25/2010 8:46:06 PM PDT by BobL
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To: lentulusgracchus

By the way, I do agree with you in total (except for the supremacist line)...McCarthy has been more than proven right...and I was actually reading about just reading about the Alger Hiss case prior to your comment. By the way, a great book you might interested in is “Forsaken”, about American IDIOTS that went to Russia in the 1930s expecting a Communist utopia - they didn’t do all that well in the end. The more interesting parts of the book is what was going on around them, in Moscow and in Washington. Unreal.


57 posted on 04/25/2010 8:52:19 PM PDT by BobL
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