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China builds world's highest dam, India fears water theft(far bigger than Three Gorges)
Asia News ^ | 04/24/10

Posted on 04/24/2010 8:30:38 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: Reeses

Well the subsidence from the weight of the impounded water and the dam itself would cause local earthquakes. We see this even with much smaller dams, so with a dam as large as the one proposed we are in uncharted territory.


21 posted on 04/24/2010 10:20:31 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: autumnraine

China has had nukes since the 60’s. They’re the only country to ever conduct a nuke test with an actual missile delivery system (not just a high altitude test) as it would be used in wartime. They were testing well into the 90’s at Lop Nor.


22 posted on 04/24/2010 10:25:28 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: autumnraine

China has definitely tested nuclear capable missiles, and they have an extremely sufficient air force to do bombardment.


23 posted on 04/24/2010 10:28:40 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I saw a map somewhere that has the sites of all the proposed hydropower plants in China...simply staggering. Just about any river flowing from the Tibetan Plateau is targeted for a dam. Makes the Corps of Engineers and Bureau of Reclamation here look like pikers.

Not the first time the analogy has been used but the Chinese and Indians are like locusts.


24 posted on 04/24/2010 10:42:24 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Here is a start of plans, active and constructed sites on the Mekong systems.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bxFLGJfxdbk/S31vZXKgyUI/AAAAAAAAA5Q/f_jMFpS077E/s1600-h/Three+Rivers+HPP+17+02+10.jpg

This isn’t the one I was really looking for though.


25 posted on 04/24/2010 10:57:04 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Reeses
"My fear is that China will tip over and capsize,"

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26 posted on 04/24/2010 11:38:43 AM PDT by digger48
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Three Gorges Dam in China caused the orbit of the earth to change by one inch.


27 posted on 04/24/2010 11:54:20 AM PDT by blam
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China actually needs a war and the dictators know it. Their one child policy has resulted in the deaths of tens of millions of baby girls. They now 30 million more marriageable males than females. That is a lot of testosterone to keep in check.


28 posted on 04/24/2010 12:00:14 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: autumnraine
Yeah, this is feeling like WW3.

Well, at least the raping and plundering part.

29 posted on 04/24/2010 1:05:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Pessimist
Not ony that, it will slow the earth’s rotation slightly, just like 3 gorges did.

It just gives them more daylight to build more dams.

30 posted on 04/24/2010 1:07:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You’re being misleading when you say its far bigger than the three gorges dam. This dam is 500 MW, the Three Gorges Dam will deliver or is alreadying deliverying 18,000 MW. 500 MW is about equivalant in output to a large coal fired plant.


31 posted on 04/24/2010 2:19:57 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: WellyP

China is going forward with this because they are so much more powerful than the Indians. Their economy is 5 times larger and their military technology is 20 years ahead of India. A fight between India and china at this point would be like a child fighting a grown man.

This dam has strategic implications. Once complete, China would be able to effectively shut down the bramaputra river and halt the livelihoods of around 100 million Indian peasants. Any Indian government in power could be significantly destabilized when it serve’s china’s national interests to do so. China isn’t trying to fight India. These moves are prep work to turn India into a compliant client state.


32 posted on 04/24/2010 3:07:22 PM PDT by artaxerces
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It would be foolish for you to think that Indian govt will watch helplessly when 100 million of its peasants start revolting. No democratically elected govt can ignore such a big effect. Unlike China, those 100 million farmers will vote the govt out and make the new govt fight this!

As for your comments on military capabilities, you believe too much in Chinese capabilities and underestimate India. Look up what SFF unit of Indian Army is! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Frontier_Force)

Don’t mistake our patience for weakness.


33 posted on 04/24/2010 11:36:32 PM PDT by An_Indian
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To: artaxerces; Jack Black
Lol. While I agree that the Chinese probably have a qualitative advantage over the Indians, it'd be a much closer match than what you suggest. Furthermore, Chinese military technology has been thoroughly hampered by the restrictions placed on military exports to China--which has admittedly helped their indigenous defense industry. India is not so hindered, and has access to pretty much whatever they want/can afford. In that regard, you have the situation backwards.

In any event, given the terrain of the Sino-Indian border, it'd be a mostly infantry based conflict with air support allowing Indian armor to remain in the west to ward off any potential Pakistani interference. Assuming India's air force gets involved in this hypothetical go around, I'd give them the edge in a scrap (although the Chinese are improving their training methods/equipment).
34 posted on 04/25/2010 1:02:51 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: An_Indian

Nobody is questioning the professionalism of the Indian Military. However, what is being questioned is the economic, military, and technological strength of the Indian State. Yes, those 100 million farmers can elect in a new Government, but how exactly does the new Government force the Chinese government to turn on the spigot? Not through military threat. Certainly not through economic sanctions. How exactly does an Indian government do this? By complying with Chinese interests.


35 posted on 04/25/2010 8:42:09 AM PDT by artaxerces
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

“In any event, given the terrain of the Sino-Indian border, it’d be a mostly infantry based conflict with air support allowing Indian armor to remain in the west to ward off any potential Pakistani interference. Assuming India’s air force gets involved in this hypothetical go around, I’d give them the edge in a scrap (although the Chinese are improving their training methods/equipment).”

The most important thing to keep in mind is that the Indian Air force has only a 1 to 2 week supply of critical Russian/French/Israeli spare parts and smart munitions. Meaning, it can only sustain about 1 week of a modern, high-intensity air war.

China has no such logistical issues, since it’s entire defense complex supply chain is produced in house.

Yes, India’s purchased Russian/French/Israeli weapons have a marginal advantage over Chinese domestic platforms. But since China can produce those 4th Generation aircrafts themselves instead of buying it from other countries, they have several times as many fighters.

So here in lies the source of Indian weakness. In a real air war with China, it would be numerically outmatched from the start. After just the 1st week of war, it would be both numerically and qualitatively outmatched. This means that India won’t be the one starting any fights....


36 posted on 04/25/2010 8:49:08 AM PDT by artaxerces
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

“Furthermore, Chinese military technology has been thoroughly hampered by the restrictions placed on military exports to China—which has admittedly helped their indigenous defense industry. “

I have to say that for China, the Western Military embargoes were a blessing in disguise. Being forced to rely on their own capabilities has advanced Chinese military technology by about 50 years since the 80s. At this point, they are 7 to 10 years behind the U.S, 5 years behind Europe/Japan, and perhaps only 1-2 years behind Russia.


37 posted on 04/25/2010 9:05:18 AM PDT by artaxerces
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To: TigerLikesRooster

FWIW, India would never take on the Chinese.

The political elites are too limp wristed.

And, without America to watch India’s back, India is alone, squeezed between China and Pakistan.

But, for China, another kudos for a mega engineering project.


38 posted on 04/26/2010 1:39:06 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: Sequoyah101

>the Chinese and Indians are like locusts.

What does that mean?

Are they stripping the leaves and flowers off the trees.

Puzzled, please clarify.


39 posted on 04/26/2010 1:40:54 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: swarthyguy

You’ve never seen or heard of a plague of locusts devour everything in their path?


40 posted on 04/26/2010 2:11:06 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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