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'Birther' Soldier Faces Charges
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704388304575202393506147452.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_5 ^ | April 24, 2010 | YOCHI J. DREAZEN

Posted on 04/24/2010 6:15:52 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: okie01
An exchange that is just further proof that rational thought is no substitute for enthusiasm. Unfortunately, there are a lot of enthusiastic people on FR these days.

You tried, though....

141 posted on 04/25/2010 12:22:48 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: okie01

Obama signed a letter stating that he was born in a certain hospital. I believe it was in conjunction with a fund raising effort by that hospital.

If he wasn’t born there that would be provable fraud.


142 posted on 04/25/2010 12:51:52 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: okie01

“And the fact that it is a forgery would have nothing to do with proving that Obama is, in fact, not eligible. If somebody were found to have been using a forged copy of your driver’s license, that would not prove that you were complicit.”

That forged COLB is the only document that has been put forward to certify that Obama is in fact eligible.

If Obama suddenly distances himself from it saying that he has no knowledge about it then he is admitting that he has NOT PRODUCED ANY EVIDENCE that he qualifies for the job. He would be an admitted usurper.

He has to cling to that forgery. He is complicit in the fraud and is unlawfully residing in the White House and usurping the presidency.


143 posted on 04/25/2010 1:04:25 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue
If he wasn’t born there that would be provable fraud.

Unless he somehow profited from the deal, it would be a lie. Not fraud. And, if it's a lie, it has nothing to do with his eligibility for office.

A lie doesn't disqualify one from the office of the President.

Hardly...

144 posted on 04/25/2010 1:07:19 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

Conclusive proof of a forgery.

And the HDOH has given conclusive proof that Obama’s birth certificate has been amended, which makes his BC unqualified to be prima facie evidence.

IOW, we have conclusive proof that Obama has totally lied to hide that his Hawaii birth record is deficient.

Obviously we have no conclusive proof of where Obama was born, who his parents were, or how old he is - all of which impact his eligibility. IOW, his eligibility is entirely based on unsubstantiated rumors, from a legal standpoint. There is not a soul on earth who can say that Obama’s eligibility has ever even been legally addressed; it can’t be addressed without seeing his original birth certificate AND all the documentation for it, as well as comparing that documentation with the documentation for any competing birth claims. That’s what Hawaii law says.

We have conclusive proof that Obama’s eligibility has never been legally checked and Obama’s actual claims consist of a forged COLB.

You’re fine with that? You think that’s the evidentiary standards that our government, media, and law enforcement should be satisfied with in this post-9-11 world?


145 posted on 04/25/2010 1:09:12 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: okie01

Robert Gibbs said that “we posted it on the internet”. The Fight the Smears COLB - which is also a forgery - was posted on Obama’s own campaign website. Obama’s lawyers have asked Judge Carter to take note of the Factcheck COLB, and the HDOH now says on their website that Obama himself has posted his COLB.

In Hawaii it is perjury to “invite” government officials performing their duty to rely on what one knows is a forged document. Obama knows Factcheck is a forgery. By not reporting it he is at the least guilty of misprision of felony if not perjury himself for “inviting” his lawyers, campaign website, and White House communications director to rely on what he knew was a forgery and refused to report as such.

Why didn’t he report it as a forgery? You tell me.

And in the meantime, we know that the real COLB isn’t worth doo-doo from a legal evidentiary standpoint.


146 posted on 04/25/2010 1:15:31 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Smokeyblue

We know he wasn’t born there. But Obama won’t ever say whether he really signed the letter, or whether his good friend Neil Abercrombie forged the signature and seal.

Heaven forbid that law enforcement conduct an investigation before the suspect comes out and screams to the whole world that he’s guilty...


147 posted on 04/25/2010 1:18:06 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: okie01

He doesn’t have to personally profit for him to be complicit in raising funds fraudulently.


148 posted on 04/25/2010 1:19:07 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: okie01

The secret service confirmed to World Net Daily that if Obama signed that “lie” and affixed a seal to it he committed perjury.

The secret service just doesn’t think it worth their time to pursue the potential crime of perjury until the suspect comes clean.

Like I say, law enforcement is a sick, sick joke in this country. We are in a massive battle for the rule of law. This isn’t about Obama at all. He’s just the guinea pig who shows us that the system is utterly broken, festering, and stinking up the place.


149 posted on 04/25/2010 1:21:08 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Smokeyblue
That forged COLB is the only document that has been put forward to certify that Obama is in fact eligible.

Which does not mean that he is ineligible...

Look, you guys are wasting an awful lot of time on me. There's something suspicious about his documentation and I'd like to think that Obama is ineligible, too. But, so far, there's been no proof of it.

Nonetheless, all the effort expended to convince me is a waste of time. I'm not a judge, nor a jury. Nor a member of Congress -- which is probably the only body that can declare Obama ineligible.

I'm guessing that will never happen. But the Arizona legislature has actually taken steps to insure that it never happens again. That's progress...

150 posted on 04/25/2010 2:29:30 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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