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To: RWGinger
look up the difference between NATIVE BORN and NATURAL BORN. Big difference.Our constitution states Natural Born as requirement to being POTUS

The Constitution makes it clear that native-born means that you're a citizen at birth. There's nothing in the Constitution that creates a separate class of citizens who are born as U.S. citizens but not actually natural-born citizens.

56 posted on 04/23/2010 9:38:19 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Do some research. Read Benjamin Franklins letters written during the writing of the constitution where he discusses researching Latrell’s writings on natural born( although that is not the exact term Ben used)
Then read John Jay’s letter to George Washington

It is all right there


58 posted on 04/23/2010 9:42:15 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Kleon
The Constitution makes it clear that native-born means that you're a citizen at birth.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution did that for those "subject to the jurisdiction of the states" and it only made one a "citizen" -- not a "natural born citizen".

There's nothing in the Constitution that creates a separate class of citizens who are born as U.S. citizens but not actually natural-born citizens.

Except for Article II of that Constitution.

66 posted on 04/23/2010 9:49:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Kleon

Why did they use the term Natural Born Citizen instead of Native Born Citizen when they set the requirements for President?


114 posted on 04/23/2010 10:43:08 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Kleon
The Constitution makes it clear that native-born means that you're a citizen at birth.

The Constitution does not use the words "native born". Modern usuage of that term means "born in the country", but various earlier writers including Vattel (in translation) use the terms "native born" and "natural born" more or less interchangeably. (Vattel of course used "Les Naturels, ou Indigenes", since he was writting in French") So did the Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett, where they wrote: "all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens"

Clealy they required more than the 14th amendment's "Born in the United States", which is what we today call "native born".

266 posted on 04/23/2010 5:16:52 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Kleon
There's nothing in the Constitution that creates a separate class of citizens who are born as U.S. citizens but not actually natural-born citizens.

Read Vattel's Law of Nations which was referenced during the constitutional convention. The definition of NBC would not have been specified because it would have been common knowledge at the time.

Also Read David Ramsey's History of the American revolution.

Then read how COLB's were issued at the time of Obama's birth. No need to be even born in Hawaii; you could have been born in Timbucktu and gotten a COLB issued.
358 posted on 04/25/2010 10:31:21 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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