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To: shadowland; El Gato
Again, Vattel wasn't French. He was Swiss.

Using Blackstone, Obama permanently owes allegiance to the crown.

Trying to equate a citizen to a subject and vice versa is more than a stretch.

By the way, Vattel says those born in the Armies are considered born in the country, since they never left it's jurisdiction. I'm sure El Gato can provide the chapter if need be.

No need at all to try and make citizen and subject equals, thus allowing for Blackstone's definition to be the source.

201 posted on 04/23/2010 12:21:53 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

“By the way, Vattel says those born in the Armies are considered born in the country, since they never left it’s jurisdiction.”

That clears that issue with McCain up. Still..when the Constitution was finally ratified, it did not change the system of laws that existed in the states that had their precedence in common law. We still in a sense (except for Louisiana) live under that system. If you are going to cite law in the courts of America, you can still cite Blackstone as precedence.... Vattel it seems would be mere reference..but here I’m out of my depth..but considering all the contortions I’ve seen over these past two years I’m not feeling very alone. Thank you for the polite and interesting conversation.


207 posted on 04/23/2010 12:32:34 PM PDT by shadowland
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