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Louisiana House committee OKs welfare drug-testing bill
The (New Orleans) Times-Picayune ^ | April 22, 2010 | Bill Barrow

Posted on 04/22/2010 6:09:23 AM PDT by Ebenezer

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1 posted on 04/22/2010 6:09:23 AM PDT by Ebenezer
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To: lsucat; Roux; Pikachu_Dad; WFTR; chemicalman; abb; Liberty911; CajunConservative; LSUfan; ...

Pelican State ping


2 posted on 04/22/2010 6:10:38 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

Good. It is truly a shame this bill doesn’t go as far as originally intended, but it IS a step in the right direction.


3 posted on 04/22/2010 6:13:00 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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if you think Katrina sent a whole lot of people from those wards scurrying for Houston, just wait and watch if THIS passes...


4 posted on 04/22/2010 6:14:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rrstar96

Good, it’s about time. I’m sick to death of the freeloaders. This is why local charities did such a better job of helping the poor over what government does. Big, bloated, .70-.80 on the dollar used for administration, don’t have a clue as to who they are helping. Where as most charities are the exact opposite, with .10-.30 on the dollar going to admin. And the poor put a face to who they are getting help from, instead of just getting obama money that they haven’t a clue where it’s actually coming form.


5 posted on 04/22/2010 6:14:57 AM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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While I wish the best for this effort, I can just hear the aggrieved howling from DC now. Up there this will go over about as well as a turd in the punchbowl.


6 posted on 04/22/2010 6:20:03 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
if you think Katrina sent a whole lot of people from those wards scurrying for Houston, just wait and watch if THIS passes...

Then maybe it will provide incentive to more states to pass such laws.

7 posted on 04/22/2010 6:20:08 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Does anyone really think a failed drug test will result in their free money being cut off? I'll bet those who fail the drug test will end up having even more of the taxpayers money spent on them. The only way to make this actually work is to test 100% of all recipients and completely cut off those who fail.
8 posted on 04/22/2010 6:27:50 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama is Osama bin Laden's relief pitcher.)
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That's a far cry from LaBruzzo's emphasis in the fall of the 2008, when he said government should explore ideas to encourage sterilization of women on welfare ...

And why not the men as well?

9 posted on 04/22/2010 6:30:54 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Why don't they just abolish welfare? Then the tax payers wouldn't have to pay for drug tests, drug screeners, training programs, over sight etc etc etc.

This is America. The greatest country in the history of ever. You have the ability to reach for the stars. you have the ability to be an immigrant like Andrew Carnegie and become one of the richest men in the world. Likewise, you have the ability and right to fail. It seperates the wheat from the chaff.

We are the most charitable country in the world and our charity is more effective and bountiful than any mandated government program.

End WIC, food stamps, welfare, Section8 housing, free cell phones, utility subsidies, etc etc. You have the unalienable right to be an abject failure. I have the right to donate to your cause.... but when you use government to force distribution of my money at the point of a gun, it is abhorrent tyranny.

10 posted on 04/22/2010 7:05:25 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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...he said government should explore ideas to encourage sterilization of women

That - my FRiends - is one slippery slope.

Good luck To Rep. LaBruzzo on any of his proposals.

11 posted on 04/22/2010 7:20:42 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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You’re not suggesting that some welfare recipients are spending their money on drugs are you?

That’s Racist

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12 posted on 04/22/2010 7:33:08 AM PDT by dartuser ("Palin 2012 ... nothing else will do.")
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>>End WIC, food stamps, welfare, Section8 housing, free cell phones, utility subsidies, etc etc. You have the unalienable right to be an abject failure.<<

The problem is that these baby producing machines understand that American taxpayers will not cut them off because of their children. We cannot allow the children to suffer because of the actions of their irresponsible parent.


13 posted on 04/22/2010 9:01:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Should people be questioning their government? Yes and "Where's the birth certificate?")
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The problem is that these baby producing machines understand that American taxpayers will not cut them off because of their children. We cannot allow the children to suffer because of the actions of their irresponsible parent.

I will never sacrifice the financial security of my family in order to prevent someone else's child from suffering. Sorry, but everything has an order of priority.

14 posted on 04/22/2010 9:07:55 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama is Osama bin Laden's relief pitcher.)
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I agree, but "the children" have been the pry bar to open nearly ever social program the socialists have implemented.

There is no motivation like necessity. If we reward bad behavior, we will get bad behavior. If we make it so having 15 kids is no longer lucrative, there will be less incentive to engage in this behavior.

We still have soup kitchens, church groups, shelters, etc. Do not underestimate the American people. Also, don't believe that these people are just going to sit on the couch and starve to death with their kids.

While on the face value I agree welfare recipients shouldn't have their habits financed by taxpayers (especially when so many taxpayers have to undergo urinalysis for their employment) more government is not, and never will be, the answer. This is exactly what this program will bring.... more expensive bureaucracy.

I'd be willing to bet that it'd be cheaper to BUY the drugs FOR the welfare recipients than pay for the urinalysis and bureaucracies. Remember, government is the only ones to lose money running a whore house (Nevada) and a monopoly gambling institution (New Yawk's OTB).

If we continue at this rate, we will encourage others to do the same. Eventually (and it's coming) they will run out of our money...... Detroit and California are prime examples of this. 1/3 of Maryland's millionaires left because of the increase in taxes. We will never be able to bring their standard of living UP to ours through social programs, rather we will bring our standard of living DOWN to theirs.

"For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat." II Thessalonians 3:10 NKJV

15 posted on 04/22/2010 9:49:27 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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If the government institutes a tax to pay for their WIC, food stamps, welfare, Section8 housing, free cell phones, utility subsidies, etc etc. , you will pay it. If you don’t you will suffer the consequences.... which will sacrifice the financial security of your family.

Correct?


16 posted on 04/22/2010 9:54:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Should people be questioning their government? Yes and "Where's the birth certificate?")
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Welfare is like having lice. It continues to grow until everyone in the community has it. It infects every area of your life when your neighbor is collecting free payments from YOU.

I have no idea how to abolish it without being cruel.


17 posted on 04/22/2010 9:57:31 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Should people be questioning their government? Yes and "Where's the birth certificate?")
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I have no idea how to abolish it without being cruel.

The only way I could figure is saying after 01 Jan 2013 (or a date some 2 years away) xx, yy, zz programs will no longer exist. From 23 April 2010, new applicants will not be accepted.

This way, there are warnings. We need to make the resolutions legally binding and that they remove the infrastructure to support the programs; this way the dems can't pull an 11th hour vote on 31 Dec to reinstate them.

18 posted on 04/22/2010 10:23:37 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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That’s an idea that i hadn’t thought of. I like it.


19 posted on 04/22/2010 10:35:48 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Should people be questioning their government? Yes and "Where's the birth certificate?")
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Only if I keep playing by their rules....which I won't.
20 posted on 04/22/2010 10:46:45 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama is Osama bin Laden's relief pitcher.)
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