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With Goldman charged, rivals smell blood
Reuters via Fidelity.com ^ | April 21, 2010 | George Chen and Fiona Lau

Posted on 04/21/2010 8:07:35 PM PDT by mlocher

Within days -- perhaps even hours -- of news that Goldman Sachs was facing fraud charges from U.S. regulators, rivals seized on a chance to elbow in front of Wall Street's most profitable bank.

Investment bankers have been lobbying executives at state-owned Agricultural Bank of China and pushing officials in Beijing to drop Goldman as an underwriter for the more than $20 billion IPO the Chinese bank is preparing, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The sources said rival bankers were also asking officials at state-controlled Bank of Communications to ditch Goldman from its joint global coordinator role in the $6.1 billion rights issue that China's fifth-largest bank is planning for the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

A lot of it probably is wishful (banker) thinking: There is no indication that either AgBank or Bocom will push Goldman aside.

In fact, everything appears hunky-dory. AgBank on Tuesday asked the firm to take the lead in its planned roadshows to sell the IPO to investors, according to one source.

AgBank and Bocom were unavailable for comment. Goldman declined to comment.

The rivals are well aware that in China how an organization is perceived can mean everything, and that a tainted Goldman could be vulnerable.

In particular, the nature of the case brought by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission provides fertile ground for the bank's rivals because it alleges that Goldman failed to tell clients key information about a subprime mortgage securities product that it sold to them in 2007.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.fidelity.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: golmansachs; sec
An unintended consequence of this Obama charade is to drive business form the United States to other countries. The Financial Reform Bill, which this this piece of propaganda is supporting, will do the same thing.
1 posted on 04/21/2010 8:07:36 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: mlocher

I am not a banking expert. My question is will this be a step towards a one world bank?


2 posted on 04/21/2010 8:12:17 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

“My question is will this be a step towards a one world bank?”

I would not put anything past this administration.


3 posted on 04/21/2010 8:15:06 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: jonrick46
My question is will this be a step towards a one world bank?

I do not know. The Financial Regulation Bill is a step towards the government takeover of banks in the US. The bill does not mandate a takeover; rather it puts the tools in place that allow the Treasury Secretary to take over the assets of a bank, fire its management and assume all shares of stock, for banks that do not meet certain criteria.

4 posted on 04/21/2010 8:17:56 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: jonrick46

In my gut......I’m thinking this is the ultimate goal pertaining to what I’ve read over the past months.


5 posted on 04/21/2010 8:19:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

OMG! The knot is tightening around America’s neck.


6 posted on 04/21/2010 8:30:58 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: mlocher

From civil fraud in the US, we may evolve to more and almost unlimited criminal fraud unless “Too Big to Fail” evolves to “Too Big for Jail”.

However, on the world stage, “Too Big for Jail” may be considered for rejection, perhaps selectively, and focused mainly on the US, if the European courts have anything to do with it, simply because ALL of the world-central bank destructive credit derivatives of PONZI originated here. Charles Ponzi, himself, would no doubt be flabbergasted to learn of the world-wide spread of his rotten technique to every financial institution in the Western Fiat World.

The size of all things financial is in “uncharted waters”, “unprecedentally huge” as some frequently note, and now, with accountability arising as a realistic direction after-the-fact, that too may be found, humorously, “Too Big for Court”, as litigation encompassing a completely fradulent Ponzi system of nation-state modus operandi world-wide is impossible to contemplate in scope. Talk about Pandoras’ Box!! Humorously, again, are there enough lawyers? Is there enough courtroom space, jury food, etc? Has guilt already been established?

Yes, the situation is historically absurd, and proposed solutions are even worse, and will be proved so as they are designed, refined and carried out by the same people who have brought the very present situation.

A rotting fruit rots its worst and best at the end with no other alternative, and not all seeds survive.


7 posted on 04/21/2010 8:34:15 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: mlocher

Rivals don’t smell too much. Goldman is Obama’s friend.


8 posted on 04/21/2010 9:16:12 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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