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Or are you going to claim that the Israelis should have waited until a whole bunch of Jews were killed before they responded?

I'm not aying they should have. What I said was to the effect israel claimed they were attacked (ie an act of war) when in fact they weren't. Israel attacked first.

Now, whether they belive they were justified in conducting a preemptive strike is in accordance with THEIR FOREIGN POLICY DECISIONS.

If they felt they were in danger, then by all means strike first. What I mentioned was they said something and it wasn't entirely true.

Fact. Israel attacked Egypt. Fact Israel attacked a US Naval vessel.

If you read my post, I speculated the Isrelis most likely felt justified in their actions.

I'm not here to bash Israel. I am trying to have an intelligent conversation. But, apparently, utilizing any type of critical thinking (even when my post was not biased at all) brands you anti-Semite.

Or are you going to claim you weren't trying to bait me with your remark?

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There had to be valid reasons. Bamford’s fall way short.

That is your opinion. However, the sources of the book were from NSA employees and USS Liberty crew..... ie people with first hand knowledge or eyewitnesses.

I stipulated Israel felt validated in their attack, by protecting their national interests. Bamford goes onto detail further concerning Israel-Britain? relations/interactions as well other situations regarding their relationship with the US. I also said we need (and are justified) in determing our interests before dis/allowing Israe access to US controlled airspace for the conduct of war.

Further, I said that every nation needs to put their interests first and foremost; including Israel...... or would you prefer I said Israel should have carte blanch ability to attack US interests with impunity just because they're Israel? Cool.

Then we can say that Italy can attack the US for any reason because they are Catholic and home to the Vatican. And Saudi Arabia can because they're a muslim country and home to mecca....... and we can't say anything about; not even unbiased analysis of the events.

In those cases and that line of foreign policy, we are going to need a lot more troops as cannon fodder.... hope you registered for the draft.

“I’m not here to bash Israel. I am trying to have an intelligent conversation. But, apparently, utilizing any type of critical thinking (even when my post was not biased at all) brands you anti-Semite. “

I didn’t use that language or make that suggestion.

“Or are you going to claim you weren’t trying to bait me with your remark?”

Is that the same as branding you?

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“There had to be valid reasons. Bamford’s fall way short.

That is your opinion. However, the sources of the book were from NSA employees and USS Liberty crew..... ie people with first hand knowledge or eyewitnesses.”

Yes, it is my opinion and I stand by it. The sources are all from one side and it’s their opinion.

“I also said we need (and are justified) in determing our interests before dis/allowing Israe access to US controlled airspace for the conduct of war.”

No argument.

“Further, I said that every nation needs to put their interests first and foremost; including Israel...... or would you prefer I said Israel should have carte blanch ability to attack US interests with impunity just because they’re Israel? Cool.”

Now who’s baiting? It’s the President who decides what US interests are. You may trust him. I don’t. But in either case it’s not up to us.

“In those cases and that line of foreign policy, we are going to need a lot more troops as cannon fodder.... hope you registered for the draft.”

I’m too old to serve.

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They won't.

"...But, apparently, utilizing any type of critical thinking (even when my post was not biased at all) brands you anti-Semite. "

Because most posters registered long-term at Free Republic know the USS Liberty issue has been re-hashed to the point of absurdity and tend to a default view, that bringing it up yet again belies ulterior motives other than unbiased "critical thinking."

The relationship between the United States and Israel in 1967 was radically different than it is now. Rehashing, again, an incident that took place between the two countries in the disorder of a war zone over four decades ago in very different times, tends to brand the poster other than innocuous.

Just sayin'.

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With the nations lining up as they are now I think it is a mistake to argue over who did what in the past. I agree these times are far different than previous and we would be wise to understand these times as they are....Israel is...Russia, Iran, Syria are...and least we forget Iran and Russia are currently arming Chavaz on our back door step.

Things have changed greatly....leaders are determining their positions on the game board...all are saying nothing is off the table....may better minds prevail as this crisis builds.