No Obot, the corrupt Obama team posted 2 forgeries and passed them off as the same document. The first one was posted by the DailyKooks at the DailyKos.org on the 12th of June 2008, which was later posted by the Kool-aid drinkers at "Fight the Smears" Obama's official website. The second one was to cover up the deficiencies of the first one, which was posted at "FactCheck".org in the 1st week of August, 08. And Obot, you'll never see either of those two forgeries from the inside of any courtroom submitted as evidence - never. Because the Obama COLB forgery would be subject to verification of his vital records in Hawaii. Obama is not about to let that happen if he can help it.
The “FIGHT THE SMEARS” website was an official sub-division of the “Obama For President” campaign. HE is responsible for it.
The Dumbass Obama would still claim 'plausible deniability' if he thought he could get away with it...and probably even if could not. Obama would say I didn't know what those guys were doing on that campaign website. I had thousands of people working on my campaign and noway I could keep track of what they were all doing. It wouldn't work because no one would believe his lying ass.
Once again, neither you nor I have any idea what evidence has been submitted in defendants’ legal briefs to the Courts that have looked at the eligibility issue.
Where have you been? Their briefs are on public display.
Just because you call something a forgery doesn’t make it so.
But it is in this case.
Back in August of 2008, WorldNetDaily, not exactly a pro-Obot website had its own independent forgery experts examine the Obama online COLB and they concluded that it was “most likely” authentic.
I don't see anywhere that WND believes in those clowns at Factcheck.org in the article you posted. And I see you left off the clowns at 'Factcheck' in your post above. LOL!
A separate WND investigation into Obama's certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
WND doesn't name the person(s) who said it was 'authentic'. Obviously we know now those/that guy(s) was wrong from your August 23rd, 2008 article. And in the same WND article, is most likely referring to 'Techdude' who claimed it was Maya's COLB that was used as a template used for the Obama COLB DailyKook.org forgery, which did not hold up to scrutiny. He's been discredited.
However, a few months later WND ran this story:
Posted: December 01, 2008 10:20 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
It was Polarik's analysis of the Obama COLB and which has stood up to scrutiny despite all the Obots who tried to say otherwise.
This time, WND names this independent expert here in the same article who said,
"Dan Purdy of Forensic Document Examination Services Inc. told WND that the origins of the Internet images aren't known. He raised questions over whether the "original" was a photocopy, the equipment used to create the digital image and the compression processes of the various formats. "
Furthermore in the same December 1st article,
"WND columnist Janet Porter has written extensively about the birth certification issue...
She also noted the issue won't go away, and recommended a visit to ObamaForgery.com to review what's happening.
"These are the facts," she wrote. "The Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen. Obama's grandmother said she was there when Barack was born in Kenya. Obama refuses to release his original birth certificate. Instead of a birth certificate, Obama's campaign posted a certification given to those born abroad. Experts have called even that document an 'obvious forgery.'"
"Our Constitution still matters," she said."
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So Obot, do you really think World Net Daily really believes Obama's Hawaiian COLB that are posted online are genuine - do you?
So Obot, do you really think World Net Daily really believes Obama’s Hawaiian COLB that are posted online are genuine - do you?
The ONLY birth certificate that Obama will EVER need to show to anyone is the Hawaii Certification of Live Birth. It meets all the federal requirements for a birth certificate and its printed on safety paper which federal law requires, meaning it cannot be altered or forged while original birth certificates were usually NOT printed on safety paper and therefore they CAN be altered or forged much more easily.
The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, Section 7211, mandated that minimum standards be set for birth certificates acceptable for federal purposes. The Department of Health and Human Services (of which the National Center for Health Statistics is a part) was tasked with issuing the standard. The statute defined a “birth certificate” as follows:
(a) DEFINITION- In this section, the term `birth certificate’ means a certificate of birth–
(1) for an individual (regardless of where born)–
(A) who is a citizen or national of the United States at birth; and
(B) whose birth is registered in the United States; and
(2) that–
(A) is issued by a Federal State, or local government agency or authorized custodian of record and produced from birth records maintained by such agency or custodian of record; or
(B) is an authenticated copy, issued by a Federal, State, or local government agency or authorized custodian of record, of an original certificate of birth issued by such agency or custodian of record.
The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act specifically mandates three categories of minimum standards for vital registration, including standards on (1) the certification of birth certificates and the use of safety paper, (2) proof and verification of identity as a condition of issuance of a birth certificate, and (3) processing of birth certificate applications to prevent fraud.
Any official document issued by the state of Hawaii meets the standards listed above.
Electronic Verification (EVVE)
The DHS rule, Section 37.13(b)(3), specifies that the validity of birth certificates, presented to document the date of birth or to prove U.S. citizenship, should be verified electronically, by accessing the Electronic Verification of Vital Events (EVVE) system maintained by the National Association of Public Health Statistics and Information Systems (NAPHSIS), rather than directly with the issuers of the birth certificates (such as hospitals).
Hawaii was the first state to enact legislation that allowed verification of birth certificate information in lieu of ordering certified copies of vital records and piloted the Electronic Verification of Vital Event (EVVE) system nationally.
“A separate WND investigation into Obama’s birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.”-—Worldnetdaily.com
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
Polarik's analysis only holds up for those who want to believe and lack expertise.
http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/210-Bad-Science-How-Not-To-Do-Image-Analysis.html
Actually it was Polarik's analysis that began to convince me that the whole issue was bunk. I have worked with more scanned images than I care to recall as a professional and know his analysis is faulty to say the least. Either Polarik doesn't know what he's looking at, or he thinks his audience is too inexperienced to know when he's attempting to pull the wool over their eyes.