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To: cricket

Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers believe in? Specifically. I’m actually serious—not a provocateur.


11 posted on 04/19/2010 7:23:55 AM PDT by sydney smith
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To: sydney smith
They Believe that it is wrong for the goberment to take %50 of the fruits of their labor, or how-bout we say they don't like being half a slave.
12 posted on 04/19/2010 7:33:52 AM PDT by greylurker (Biloxi Pinger)
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To: sydney smith
Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers believe in? Specifically. I’m actually serious—not a provocateur.

Dear provocateur, Tea baggers believe in the Constitution, the American Dream, Liberty and personal responsibility. What do you believe in?

13 posted on 04/19/2010 7:37:12 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: sydney smith
Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers believe in?

A return to a Constitutional government. Everything would change for the better.
Anything that causes a burden on another person is not a Constitutional right. Rights are self oriented.
The government has a limited purpose. Very limited, and it's time the government got back into it's place and stated working for us again.
In short, we're tired of being used as tax slaves by our own government. If they want health care for all, let them empty their own bank accounts to pay for it. The same applies to "free" this and "free" that. Nothing is free. Someone, somewhere, has to become a slave to pay for it all.

The American people are demanding their freedom. They're working toward a day when they can finally say "Free, free, free at last. Thank God Almighty we're free at last."

Here's something for you to ponder - Name something that is NOT regulated by our over sized, out of control government? Name one thing.

16 posted on 04/19/2010 7:40:58 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: sydney smith

The Constitution.

The DC Tea Party devised (and had an internet vote on) a “Contract from America”

The #1 item (also the item that had the greatest approval) was:

1. Protect the Constitution
Require each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does.


17 posted on 04/19/2010 7:42:45 AM PDT by kidd
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To: sydney smith

Since you apparently cannot deign to grasp the Tea Party’s core beliefs and philosophies, perhaps a good starting point for this discussion would be for you to tell us exactly what you believe in...

Then we can move from there.

CA....


19 posted on 04/19/2010 7:48:57 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've found that silly grin again!)
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To: sydney smith

Money is what was traded for their labor, therefore money is the fruit of their labor. Money allows people to trade with others that do not necessarily require the result of their occupation.

When someone claims ownership to the fruits of another mans labor then it can be said that he is subjecting that man to slavery. Those who hold slaves view those slaves as property and whether or not the property is “well cared for” or not, it is still the property of another. Whether or not the fruit of the slave labor results in a school or a hospital or a picked field of cotton does not take away from the fact that slavery was the means in which it was built or picked. Any “noble” intentions are completely done in by the fact that slavery was the means.

Its not about money, its about the human principles and natural rights that give money its value between free men. Its about fighting slavery to the state and collective. Its about breaking free from the chains of socialism.


21 posted on 04/19/2010 8:03:34 AM PDT by myself6
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To: sydney smith

“Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers
believe in? Specifically. I’m actually serious-not a
provocateur.”

My question to you is where the hell have you been?

Having posed that question I will take a stab at an-
swering yours at least partially. Tea Party folks
believe that our already over spending government
has gone completely over board and our economy is
at serious risk. We are spending money we don’t
and won’t have. They also believe that the current
administration and legislature is leading us down
the path of cradle to grave nanny state. They be-
lieve that the government has certain responsibil-
ities but that we are heading in a direction that
will gradually deprive us of our freedoms.


23 posted on 04/19/2010 8:08:52 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: sydney smith
I downloaded the below described course of 12 lectures from the Teaching Company. I have listened to five of twelve lectures so far, but each could be better described as a homily or, minimally, a truly inspired speech. The problem with trying to fit all that the Tea Party is about into a nutshell is very difficult. You raise a very good point about money, and indeed lecture five discusses the concept of private property and the right of a man to keep the fruits of his labors. I don't know if the series is still on sale, but I recommend it highly. It would answer your question better than I could.

http://www.teach12.com/storex/courseInfo.aspx?id=4855&d=American+Ideals%3a++Founding+a+%22Republic+of+Virtue%22

25 posted on 04/19/2010 8:23:03 AM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government.)
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To: sydney smith; All
Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers believe in? Specifically. I’m actually serious—not a provocateur.

'Their money'? You mean their concerns about their money because they see America becoming a 'food line' advertisement? By their wanting 'fair taxation' i.e. a moral taxation - not to mention one that falls within parameters of our Constitution? They want 'fair representation' by their Congressional Reps! Imagine having to protest for just that!

We have an un-American, tyrant-wannabe in our White House; and they want their Reps to remember who it is they serve - and what Country.

This is about 'Freedom' - and a soul in debt is not free. This is about the future 'soul' of our Country. It is about America forever being compromised to 'foreign interests' - and by consequence, our National Security. The consequences of which they do not want fall to 'our' America - nor the one we pass on to future Generations.

Of course, we do not work for our Government; our Government is supposed to - again by our Constitution - work for us! Is that now, too much to ask? Apparently so; and hence; the push back.

We are now threatened with Leadership that shares a willing and too often a 'determined' ignorance of our Constitution. Our rights are disappearing; and paramount to our rights, of course is our Freedom. We have less and less, thanks to ever moving privacy boundaries; and financial strictures imposed against citizenry; mafia style. It IS about saving Capitalism.

Tea Party is about - a Government out of control; and jeopardizing; all that Americans hold dear and what our Allies hold dear as well This is about staving off what was creeping; but is now the leaping MO's of socialism - aka a small text communism. This is about America - about 'repeal' and repair and restoring America. It is about NOT having our Country changed into a 'third-world model; nor a European 'weenie' state.

It is a whole lot more, of course; and their are variations of theme; but they are not themes of 'self-servance - as you imply. Tea Paryy folks; like the majority of Americans, do share common cause, by their shared patriotism and altruism - something the Left can NEVER never - authentically - claim.

(And here is where the Left's degraded, collective hate begins against those who 'party'_.

29 posted on 04/19/2010 8:47:06 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: sydney smith

Tea Party convention I went to here was big on Palin and social conservatism as much as fiscal stuff.

but nationwide the media portrays them as mostly fiscal

hard to tell

Dick Morris said the other night if there was a leader it was Palin

I doubt these San Fransiisco tea partiers are social righties but I could be wrong.


35 posted on 04/19/2010 9:06:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (Will adobe ever fix shockwave to work consistently?)
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To: sydney smith
Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers believe in? Specifically. I’m actually serious—not a provocateur...

Why do you think it's about money?

51 posted on 04/19/2010 3:28:26 PM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: sydney smith

Tea Party convention I went to here was big on Palin and social conservatism as much as fiscal stuff.

but nationwide the media portrays them as mostly fiscal

hard to tell

Dick Morris said the other night if there was a leader it was Palin

I doubt these San Fransiisco tea partiers are social righties but I could be wrong.


58 posted on 04/19/2010 7:19:20 PM PDT by wardaddy (Will adobe ever fix shockwave to work consistently?)
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