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The Barbary Pirates were not influenced by "reaching out to them" in a peaceful way any more than anyone elses' effort to do the same over 1400years. That is to say Islam was stopped only by military force. History has already answered the question of how Islam has always been dealt with successfully. So far, the creation of neo-political policy untested methods of dealing with eternal Islamism are showing inefficient and ineffective results. Give Islam an inch and it will take as many miles as possible until it decides to take a breather for the next leg up its eternal ladder. Trouble is that it seems not an eternal ladder anymore...demographically they can have Europe by 2050. With modern weaponry, population infiltration of Western Democracies from the lowest levels to the highest levels of govt., esp. in the US, has encouraged Islam to not wait for demography, but to advance quickly now. So far it is successful to a degree not expected. Sharia finance advances rapidly even as Western finance and welfare and social nets and govt. budgets are collapsing. The recent US official doctrine position of making accurate Islamic word terminology prohibited is interpreted by Islam as a submission signal extraordinaire. It is a shield of cover for the advancement and encouragement of Islamic advances in this country. Phares is a long time expert regarding what he writes, and he recognizes the dangers of our course along with many other students and analysts of Islam. All Islam is an enemy of any non-Sharia state. Islam must be taken for what its writings say it is..Muslims go by it literally. Our interpretive wishtul-creativity can only lead to dangerous error and self-delusion. From a French observers site regarding the French, the EU and Turkey (now with neo-Ottoman aspirations and alliance with Syria and Iran)now are observed as follows: http://galliawatch.blogspot.com/ "Last summer a ten-month extravaganza promoting Turkey and Turkish culture opened in Paris. Known as "La Saison de la Turquie", it has now closed, with the arrival of Recep Tayyip Erdogan in the French capital yesterday (April 6). During his visit he was scheduled to attend a spectacle at the Zenith Theater where 6000 "European Turks" arriving in chartered buses would gather to hear him speak. The poster above says it clearly: Recep Tayyip Erdogan will meet the European Turks, April 7, 2010 at the Zenith Theater. A reader at an Armenian website, Armen News, asks "What exactly is a European Turk?" Erdogan, however, seems to know very well the answer to that question. Here is a condensation of an article from Armen News: The Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan confided Wednesday in Paris that he "had not lost hope" of seeing Nicolas Sarkozy change his mind on the accession of Turkey to the European Union. "I have not lost hope. I think that Mr. Sarkozy can revise his approach," he declared during a meeting with journalists, before joining the French president for a working lunch. (...) Along with Germany, France has proposed to the Turks a "privileged partnership" rather than full-fledged membership. Erdogan enumerated the arguments in favor of accession, such as the role Turkey can play as a bridge between the West and the Muslim world, and he insisted on the advanced level of reforms in his country. "Turkey fulfills many more requirements than some of the 27 member States, be they political or economical," he stated. We have lost none of our determination," he affirmed, adding that he was convinced that "during the negotiations there would be developments that will open up a new era." Note: An interesting and mysterious comment. Does he have assurances from Sarkozy, or some other source, that accession is really a fait accompli, but that it must appear as if France is opposed? In addition to his lunch with Sarkozy, Erdogan was scheduled to meet with French Prime Minister François Fillon and French business leaders, and to close the day at a large public gathering of members of the Turkish community living in France. (...) A very long article at Novopress entitled Erdogan governs as a Sultan enumerates the failed attempts by both military and judges to drive Erdogan, leader of the AK Party, from power. One by one, the instigators of such actions have been summoned by the government and punished. The article concludes: The secretary of a labor union confided: "We are under pressure. People are joining unions with a religious orientation, that are close to the government." Likewise, a professor reveals: "The representatives of the AK are present in all centers of coordination. The governors, the regional councils, the school principals, the police all are becoming allies of the Party." A journalist with the Turkish Daily News, and opponent of Erdogan, wonders: "This is a democracy where only the army is democratizing. In all other sectors of society members of the AK have taken over. Is this an Islamist democracy?" And so Erdogan, the popular tribune, reigns as a Sultan. (...) From Le Salon Beige comes this item: On Wednesday evening, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan called on 6000 Turks waving red flags adorned with the crescent and white star, to "integrate" and to ask for dual nationality in order to be the "diplomats" of Turkey in Europe. But he warned against "assimilation". "There is no problem with integration, but I am against assimilation. Nobody can ask you to become assimilated. For me, asking you to assimilate is a crime against humanity, because nobody can say to you: 'renounce your values' (...) France has given you the right to dual nationality, why not ask for it? Don't be reticent, don't be timid, use the right that France is giving you. Taking out a French passport does not cause you to lose your Turkish identity." As usual there are some interesting comments after the article. One commenter - zebuloneuf - who has been active in the SITA movement reminds us that, despite the agenda boldly admitted to by Turkish leaders, the pro-Europe factions see no evil, hear no evil. Among the statements made by Turkish leaders over the years, he cites: "We will conquer you by means of your democratic values, we will dominate you by our Muslim values." (Erdogan) "One cannot be Muslim and secular ('laïc') at the same time." (Erdogan) "We will change definitively the secular ('laïc') system. The Republic is living its last days"... (Abdullah Gül) "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the believers our soldiers." (Erdogan, based on a Turkish poet). Note: The above quote is commonly repeated at the French websites. This is the first I knew that it came from the works of a Turkish poet. Browsing through the most recent posts on Turkey at Le Salon Beige, I came upon this: Yesterday (March 9) King Abdallah of Saudi Arabia discerned to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan the King Faisal International Prize, one of the most prestigious decorations of the kingdom, for "remarkable services rendered to Islam", for having "defended the cause of the Islamic nation, in particular the Palestinian cause and the just rights of the Palestinian people." There is one comment to this post: - Predictable. Turkey is about to shift. None of our leaders has noticed it: 1) The Turkish Army is very secular 2) The Turkish Army runs the State 3) Europe does not accept point 2!! The act of entering the EU is the strategy of the AK Party for ridding itself of the army, which guarantees Church/State separation ('laïcité'), and for setting up an Islamic State in Turkey. The reader provides a link to an article in French translation by Daniel Pipes. Here are two excerpts from the original English-language version: Barry Rubin of the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya not only argues that "The Israel-Turkey alliance is over" but concludes that Turkey's armed forces no longer guard the secular republic and can no longer intervene when the government becomes too Islamist. (...) As Barry Rubin notes, "the Turkish government is closer politically to Iran and Syria than to the United States and Israel." Caroline Glick, a Jerusalem Post columnist, goes further: Ankara already "left the Western alliance and became a full member of the Iranian axis." But official circles in the West seem nearly oblivious to this momentous change in Turkey's allegiance or its implications. The cost of their error will soon become evident. Pipes' article is followed by a flood of comments. This is common at his website. Photo below: On October 13, 2009, ministers of the Turkish and Syrian governments met at the border town of Öncüpınar and symbolically lifted a bar dividing their two countries."