Posted on 04/15/2010 5:21:41 AM PDT by aomagrat
Inmates would have to sign off on the searches before they’re released. If they don’t agree, they could stay in prison for their full term.
Sounds fine to me
Then we agree...
But you do bring up a very intersting point...
If you happen to live with a registered sex offender (and this is not as uncommon as you would think) does their “life sentence” give leeway to scrutiny and warrantless searches of “everyone” living in that residence, or even visiting at that time of a search??? Or happen to be in the same car with that person...etc etc???
See, to me there is no limit placed upon this type of intrusion...And there is no reason that common sense and respect of an individuals privacy or property should be a concern to those that conduct these activities...
If you don't want to be subject to these searches, stay in prison walk live under a bridge stay in prison and vote from there die.
Like I said, their terms, my terms. It cost a lot of money to house people, many of whom would be productive citizens contributing to the tax base.
Free health care, Free dentistry, Free meals, Free clothse, Free laundry, etc.
Until I am free, I’d just take the free stuff.
Are you planning on being 100% compliant with ObamaCare, Cap and Trade, and the 1000 other new neo-communist programs?
If yes, then wear your chains lightly.
If no, welcome to being a "criminal".
False. There is nothing to stop that now.
tell that to stevie, or any number of peasants who are deprived Rights due to a family member or other person being on paper...
truth in sentencing would be great, but with that goes a return to citizenship once the sentence is finished...we are nowheres near the sanity of either...
>>>Are you planning on being 100% compliant with ObamaCare, Cap and Trade, and the 1000 other new neo-communist programs?
If yes, then wear your chains lightly.
If no, welcome to being a “criminal”.<<<
So, because some bad laws might get passed in the future, we should go soft on thugs who have broken what are clearly good laws?
As bad as HusseinCare is, the penalty is a fine, not a criminal conviction.
That said, if the HusseinCare fines or Cap & Trade violations become felonies and I was convicted of one of these felonies, I would certainly prefer to be on probation or parole, with warrantless searches, than to be locked in a jail cell.
Don't pay that fine and see where it gets you.
That said, if the HusseinCare fines or Cap & Trade violations become felonies and I was convicted of one of these felonies, I would certainly prefer to be on probation or parole, with warrantless searches, than to be locked in a jail cell.
You answered my question. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
The left is horrified of the prospect of criminals serving their whole sentences.
You are making the common Libertarian logical fallacy of conflating bad laws and the enforcement of good laws.
ObamaCare is a bad law. We should work to repeal it or have it declared unconstitutional. Cap and Trade is a bad law, we should fight its passage.
But that doesn’t mean we should stop the vigorous enforcement of good laws. Should we close all the prisons and let rapists and murderers go free, to prevent someone from someday possibly being jailed for refusing to pay a fine for not having health insurance?
Of course not! We get rid of the bad laws and the enforce good ones.
Therefore they are blending us in with criminals.
So now is the time to prevent further rights restriction of existing and future criminals while we *also* attempt to get rid of the bad laws.
Existing rights-restriction has been sufficient for the last 7 decades or so.
Individuals can choose not to let parolees live with them, if they are afraid of warrentless searches. In practice, I believe most warrantless searches are done on the street, after a convict on probation or parole has been pulled over for a traffic violation or seen behaving suspiciously.
Also, while I don’t know how the SC law reads, laws could certainly be written to narrow the scope of the warrantless searches to areas under the control of the thugs on parole. (e.g. The thug’s room can be searched but not other resident’s rooms or common areas). I would imagine that even if the laws lacked these restrictions, the courts would impose them.
Once a convict completes his probation/parole period, he is no longer subject to warrantless searches.
“Then it only applies to people who are thinking.”
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I knew they would find some way to exempt the Democrats from the law.
Here’s another one for you...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20002423-38.html
Now why do you suppose they want to do this???
Can’t make this stuff up...
Where do you think thugs on parole or probation go when they are not in the pokey???
I can tell you...First they go to a half-way house...Kinda like a YMCA without the walls, towers, crappy food...But then again prison is punishment...They get an upgrade on the food, as they have to fend for themselves and rely upon family to send them a little scratch to go to Mc-ee Dee’s down the street...
After that they get there P.O. and however they choose to treat you, is up to their personality, not so much the law and the regs they choose to follow...
P.O.’s are usually as tough on the family members as they are on the parolees...That’s if the parolee decides to come back and live under a family members roof...
To which the P.O. will order the family to get rid of all alcohol, firearms, certain types of drugs even...Prescription or OTC...
In my case, My brother didn’t live with us, he stayed over at our mothers condo...But I and my Dad were ordered to lock up all our guns, and do not carry one, even in my brothers presense, or we would be charged with making a firearm accessable to a convicted felon...
Needless to say I took that P.O. to task...And that P.O. was taken off this case...
When the probation was over, and the paper was totally cleared on my brother, I immediately petitioned the BATFE to get the restoration of my brothers firearm rights restored...It took 3 years to get it through and done..Persistence pays off...
See, I never excused his crime, and he did his time, and it will forever be a scar on him, but he grew up, opened up his own business and is extremely successful dispite the screwup...
When you have family that takes an active role in anothers troubles, works actively to support and help correct it, sure, you have to accept responsibility, and be accountable for your actions...Accept the punishment from the state, get through it and move on...
We were not going to put up with the state busting the chops of the entire family because of one’s crime...
No, Clyde, you don’t eliminate punishment for the crime. You Don’t trash the Constitution, either. What you do is eliminate parole and probation. That eliminates the problem and the conflict. Then when the FULL price is paid for the crime, all rights are restored.
That could be probable cause for searching anyone's trunk.
Now that is just plain silly!
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