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Japan says China subs, warships came near Okinawa
AP via Google ^ | 4/14/2010 | AP via Google

Posted on 04/14/2010 9:22:06 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Two Chinese submarines and several warships were spotted in international waters off Japan's southern island of Okinawa at the weekend, and Tokyo is investigating what the military vessels were doing there, the defense minister said Tuesday.

Encounters between China's growing military and the Japanese navy have increased in the waters between the two countries in recent years. The two governments both lay claim to valuable undersea gas deposits in the region, which they have agreed to jointly develop.

Okinawan islands also have dozens of U.S. military bases. More than half of the 47,000 U.S. troops in Japan under a security pact are hosted on the islands.

"We are now conducting a detailed analysis, and will decide on our response after a thorough investigation, including whether there was any intent toward this country or not," Defense Minister Toshimi Kitazawa said of the presence of the Chinese vessels.

A ministry spokeswoman said there have been at least three cases of groups of Chinese military ships crossing through the area since November 2008. She asked to remain anonymous, citing department policy.

The latest case appeared to be the first involving surfaced submarines. The group of 10 ships, including the submarines, was observed about 90 miles (140 kilometers) southwest of Okinawa in international waters Saturday.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinesesubmarines; chinesevessels; japan; okinawa; plan

1 posted on 04/14/2010 9:22:06 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

is it any surprise?


2 posted on 04/14/2010 9:52:14 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (2012 Prediction! Pres. Biden vs. Fmr. SOS Clinton....with Fmr. Pres. Obama still in mental rehab)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Dry run on Taiwan. If SK and NK get into it...China will head for the Nationalist Chinese.


3 posted on 04/14/2010 10:07:44 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: sonofstrangelove

China has never officially renounced its claim to Okinawa.


4 posted on 04/14/2010 10:12:17 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: sonofstrangelove

Hey Japan, what are you going to do about it? Don’t look to us. We have a wuss as CIC.


5 posted on 04/14/2010 10:23:42 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Natural gas you know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_China_Sea


6 posted on 04/14/2010 10:25:52 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: mlocher

Japan wants the US off Okinawa so they can tend to this threat by themselves.
Good luck.


7 posted on 04/15/2010 1:03:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Actually the sentiment in Okinawa is probably 50/50. 50 percent want us there, they recognize our business and protection, and 50% want us the heck out of there. It is kind of a mixed bag and rather complex.


8 posted on 04/15/2010 2:22:31 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (2012 Prediction! Pres. Biden vs. Fmr. SOS Clinton....with Fmr. Pres. Obama still in mental rehab)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
You might add that the same proportion (or more) would probably welcome the departure of the mainland Japan government as well. Then they could go back to being the independent nation they were prior to the invasion and occupation by the Satsuma Clan (late 16th century) and the islands garrisoning by the Meiji government in the late 19th century.

However, a study of the map and some knowledge of winter sea icing conditions in the northwestern Pacific makes it pretty clear that the islands of Okinawa control all the ice-free sea lanes between the coasts of northern China, the Koreas, and Siberian Russia. Their territory is simply too strategically important to be left unsecured. If the mainland Japanese forces were not there, the Chinese would be busy engineering a domestic crisis so that they could come in and "assist" them... forever.

U.S naval forces (surface and subsurface) would pass through and operate in these areas while executing operations in support of the Taiwanese (assuming, of course, that Barry Soetero, err...President Obama actually honored our treaty obligations). The PLAN is simply preparing a future battlefield by conducting hydrographic reconnaissance and training to support submarine and antisubmarine operations in the event of the Chinese taking the decision to "reintegrate" the breakaway province of Taiwan into the glorious People's Republic.

The combination of 8 destroyers and 2 submarines is perfect to conduct many-on-one and many-on-many offensive and defensive training.

9 posted on 04/15/2010 4:04:50 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Some folks believe we can defend Japan and SK from Guam.


10 posted on 04/15/2010 4:54:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Unless we capsize it... :)


11 posted on 04/15/2010 5:59:39 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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