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To: etraveler13
I don’t believe he is a naturalized citizen. Personally I belive he is an illegal alien.

Yes, I understand that birtherism is a religion, and that is part of your creed. Unfortunately, you have no evidence to back up this belief of yours.

I do not believe that there is a document to be found. That is why he is sealing everything.

Obama didn't seel anything. All the records birthers complain they can't see are protected by privacy laws that apply to everyone.

I stated that AT THE VERY BEST... which presumes that he came back to the US and reapplied for citizenship denounced his Indonesian citizenship

Why would he denounce a citizenship he never had to begin with?

denounced his British citizenship

Why would he have to denounce something he lost automatically when he was in his early 20's?

I think he got his education with student visas from Indonesia and travelled under an Indonesian passport

Allegations for which you have no evidence.

Illegally changed his name from Barry Soetoro to Barak Obama

You have no evidence he ever legally changed his name to Soetoro, let alone he "illegally" changed it back.

I don’t care if you believe me, it is my own investigation and satisfies only me. Don’t like it? Tough.

I know. You will believe what you believe, evidence be damned. As I said, birtherism is a religion.

1,202 posted on 04/19/2010 1:18:38 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

I don’t believe he is a naturalized citizen. Personally I belive he is an illegal alien.
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Yes, I understand that birtherism is a religion, and that is part of your creed. Unfortunately, you have no evidence to back up this belief of yours.


So your saying I am a birther? Your wrong. I am a constitutionalist. And you have no evidence that he is a Natural Born Citizen, as there is not Birth Certificate provided by Obama, and he has sealed all of the Evidence from the American People. Yet, you seem fine with that??

I do not believe that there is a document to be found. That is why he is sealing everything.
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Obama didn’t seel anything. All the records birthers complain they can’t see are protected by privacy laws that apply to everyone.

Incorrect. Proof of citizenship for the purpose of Vetting a President of the United States is Required per the constitution. The head of the Democratic National Convention and its Secretary must confirm this and write a statement to that effect to the Secretaries of State of each of the states. The Secretaries of States for each of the States are required to investigate each candidate they place on the ballot, and the BC is required for Presidential candidates to confirm NBC status. Finally the Vice-President who presides over the congress for the purpose of counting electoral votes take a final call for objections prior to counting electoral college votes.
So your wrong.

I stated that AT THE VERY BEST... which presumes that he came back to the US and reapplied for citizenship denounced his Indonesian citizenship
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Why would he denounce a citizenship he never had to begin with?

It is my OPINION, that he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, it is circumstantial at this point. What is not at issue, is that he is the Son of Barak Hussien Obama Sr. Which makes him a dual citizen, which is not permitted for the office of President of the United States.

denounced his British citizenship
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Why would he have to denounce something he lost automatically when he was in his early 20’s?

Since you seem to admit this. You have also just admitted that he is a dual Citizen. Which cannot become President Of the United States...case closed.

I think he got his education with student visas from Indonesia and travelled under an Indonesian passport
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Allegations for which you have no evidence.

What part of “I think” don’t you understand?

Illegally changed his name from Barry Soetoro to Barak Obama
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You have no evidence he ever legally changed his name to Soetoro, let alone he “illegally” changed it back.

Actually, ancillary evidence has been posted from his elementary school in Indonesia listing him as Barry Soetoro, and the rules that govern Indonesia at the time did not allow dual citizenship, he had to be adopted. Also the divorce decree from Soetoro, listed an adult child needing Educational Assistance. Which was Barry Soetoro.

I don’t care if you believe me, it is my own investigation and satisfies only me. Don’t like it? Tough.
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I know. You will believe what you believe, evidence be damned. As I said, birtherism is a religion.

Again, I have more evidence, evidently that you, circumstantial and fact based that leads me to my conclusions. You seem to be all over the place.
As I said previously, I am a constitutionalist, but wonder if you know the difference between the two. If not, you need to educate yourself.


1,211 posted on 04/20/2010 10:29:50 AM PDT by etraveler13
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