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"Birther" Doc a No Show At Campbell
military.com ^ | 4/12/10 | Bryant Jordan

Posted on 04/12/2010 4:50:37 PM PDT by jamese777

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To: Mr Rogers

“and I don’t care enough about folk like him to worry about how his name is spelled”

Of course you don’t. It’s so nice when you all show your true colors.

You are not fooling anyone here.


141 posted on 04/12/2010 9:08:29 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

I spent 25 years in the military, and deployed more often than I could or would track. My oldest daughter deployed to Iraq. My son deployed to Iraq, and is trying to talk his way into a unit deploying this fall to Afghanistan. My son-in-law did two tours in Fallujah, and is medically disqualified from any more time in the military.

And no, I don’t give a rat’s rear end for a weasel who tries to get out of deploying. Folks like that are contemptible.

There are lots of ways to oppose Obama. Refusing deployment to a combat zone isn’t one of them. Not for a good man.


142 posted on 04/12/2010 9:20:43 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Drew68
No, it's not. You will see. Obama's eligibility will not even be a factor in whatever punishment is awarded to Lakin.

WHY are you here, and WHY are you so damn determining as defending an illegal alien born in Kenya and an usurper in the White House???

Seems you NEVER took an oath to defend the Constitution, if or when you were in the Navy???

143 posted on 04/12/2010 9:51:22 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Mr Rogers

I honestly don’t know much about LTC Lakin’s background but here’s what I found in one article.


Lieutenant Colonel Terrence (”Terry”) Lakin serves as Chief of Primary Care and Flight Surgeon for the Pentagon’s DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic. He is the lead Flight Surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff General Casey’s pilots and air crew. LTC Lakin, selected for promotion to Colonel, is a native of Colorado, whose residency is Tennessee.

LTC Lakin’s numerous awards and decorations include the Army Flight Surgeon Badge, Combat Medical Badge, the Bronze Star Medal, the Meritorious Service Medal, the Army Commendation Medal with two Oak Leaf Clusters, the Army Achievement Medal with one Oak Leaf Clusters, the National Defense Service Medal with Bronze Service Star, the Armed Forces Expedition Medal, the Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal, the Army Service Ribbon, the Overseas Service Ribbon sixth award and the NATO service medal. He has served previously in Honduras, Bosnia, El Salvador, Korea, and Afghanistan.

http://www.examiner.com/x-27672-Portland-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m4d12-Lieutenant-Colonel-challenges-Obama-to-prove-natural-born-status


At first glance, he doesn’t look like some guy who’s trying to get out of his first deployment.


144 posted on 04/12/2010 9:54:24 PM PDT by gruffwolf
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To: danamco

Mr Obama is not eligible to be POTUS because his “Legal Father” was a Kenyan with British Citizenship. This disqualifies Mr Obama!!!

Mr Obama stated in his book Dreams of my Father that Obama Sr was a Kenyan!!

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Mr Obama’s Original Birth Certificate Is necessary but; only if it is not a

“Forgery”!! The Obama administration found a Printing Press in a Canadian

Museum in Toronto
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“They have already prepared the “forgery” with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto. Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.”********Canadian Source confirming Margaret Smith as a Trustee to the Museum. (She serves on the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce for Canada).

Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith attending a Senate Banking Committee meeting: http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/bank-e/27mn-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=36&Ses=1&comm_id=3

The Birth Certificate is not as important as his “Legal Father’s Citizenship”

Obama Sr was a Kenyan with British Citizenship... “NOT” an American Citizen...... This is not allowed under the regulations of Our Constitution !!


145 posted on 04/12/2010 9:56:58 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Smokeyblue
The time has come to support a true patriot.

He and ALL his fellow "AFTER-BIRTHERS" have their own agenda and are nothing but modern days' QUISLINGER!!!

146 posted on 04/12/2010 9:58:00 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Non-Sequitur; Red Steel

And from whom does Gen. Casey get HIS orders, check mate???


147 posted on 04/12/2010 10:03:11 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Non-Sequitur
OK so you lay out the chain of command for us. Start with Lakin. End with Obama. Include everyone in between to the best that you can.

Chain of command would run to the Commander of Walter Reed, who himself is full Colonel, then to Army North(5th Army), then to the joint command NorthComm, then to the Secretary of Defense Gates, and then Obama.

There might possibly be another Colonel between him and the CO of Walter Reed.

But by necessity this move would be from one Unified Command (NorthCom) to another (CentCom) and from the Army component of one to the Army Component of the other. (Army North (5th Army) to Coalition Force Land Component Command (3rd Army)).

The Chain does not go through the Service Secretary or the Chief of Staff of the Service.

148 posted on 04/12/2010 10:04:34 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

And she definitely does NOT have cojones!!!


149 posted on 04/12/2010 10:04:46 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: gruffwolf

I don’t know his reasons for refusing. It will NOT, in any way, result in Obama needing to show squat. Both the military and civilian courts will handle this on the assumption that Obama is the President. So unless the LTC has PROOF to the contrary, it achieves nothing...and if he DID have proof, he wouldn’t need to refuse to deploy to make it known. I think it is the stupidity of what he is trying that offends me as much as anything else.

However, because he is refusing, someone else will have to go in his place. Between the first and second Gulf Wars, I spent about 6 months each year deployed to Saudi or Turkey. After the second Gulf War, I did a remote to Korea (having volunteered but been turned down for a remotes to Iraq). I followed it with a 6 month deployment to Afghanistan, and have since retired.

I always despised those who tried to find ways to not deploy. That was where we actually earned our keep. Everything else was just practice. Deployment meant DOING the job. I would hear guys trying to game the system to not go and blow my top.

Regardless of this guy’s reasons, someone else will go in his stead. That deeply offends me.


150 posted on 04/12/2010 10:07:39 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Thunder90
The only way Obama can be removed from office is impeachment.

What would the grounds be? I don't see "not eligible" in the list in the Constitution.

"Treason or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors" are the choices.

151 posted on 04/12/2010 10:12:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Mr Rogers

Here is a possible precedent for what may happen with Colonel Lakin, the first active duty soldier to question Obama’s eligibility: In February, 2009 1st Lt. Scott Easterling wrote a widely distributed open letter questioning President Obama’s citizenship and announcing his intent to join one of Orly Taitz’s lawsuits.

“I implore all Service-members and citizens to contact their Senators and Representatives,” said Lt. Easterling, “and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced.”

What happened with Easterling in the past year is that a Freedom of Information Act request was filed by a blogger for the answer, and it was discovered that Easterling had been slapped on the wrist, then promoted.

“1LT Easterling received an administrative reprimand for violation of the UCMJ.

1LT Easterling is currently assigned to Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3d Sustainment Command (Expeditionary) in the Support Operations Division.

After this incident and subsequent investigation and action, 1LT Easterling was not involved in any other incidents. As a result, his supervisors recommended him for promotion on his officer evaluation report.”


152 posted on 04/12/2010 10:18:01 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Drew68
We do have some rights to self-expression.

Indeed you do.

But your superiors must have been negligent in giving the mandatory briefing about the chain of command, obeying orders and not obeying unlawful orders. I've *given* that briefing. They always stick the most junior officer they can find with it. One year, probably 1978, that was me.

Now the chain of command has changed a lot since then, but the rest of the brief, which also included "Protection of the President", likely hasn't really changed all that much.

Oh, and in uniform, or out, on duty or not, you can't defame the President, or anyone else in YOUR chain of command.

153 posted on 04/12/2010 10:20:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: danamco
Some time line info about Lakin



154 posted on 04/12/2010 10:25:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: MilspecRob
So, since his pay master is Obama, why is accepting pay

The People of the United States are paying him, not Obama. As long as he was still doing his job at Walter Reed, why should he not have been collecting his pay?

155 posted on 04/12/2010 10:27:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: jamese777

A 1LT will get away with more than a Lt Col. However, I’ll be surprised if there is any severe punishment. I’d expect a slap on the wrist and no further progress in his career.

I’d be harsher if I were giving a sentence, but I won’t be...


156 posted on 04/12/2010 10:28:02 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: El Gato

His job includes being ready and willing to deploy any time he gets the order. He wasn’t, so he should have put in his papers.

ALL of his orders originate, in theory, with Obama...so why does he obey some and not others?


157 posted on 04/12/2010 10:31:20 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
. It will NOT, in any way, result in Obama needing to show squat. Both the military and civilian courts will handle this on the assumption that Obama is the President.

You don't know *what* an Army Court might do. In a Court Martial, the Court can ask it's own questions, it's not dependent on what the Judge (a JAG officer) might choose to do. About the only thing the judge could do would be to rule that some evidence was inadmissible, and he/she would likely only do that on application of the prosecution. Now that would look really good wouldn't it? Then there is the issue of Command Influence, which even military judges are quite sensitive to.

158 posted on 04/12/2010 10:32:43 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Drew68; Smokeyblue; Red Steel; onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; ...

Who was it that approved and gave the order to shoot and kill Captain Richard Phillips tree hostage takers in the Red Sea last year, huh???


159 posted on 04/12/2010 10:35:38 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Mr Rogers; Smokeyblue
The military isn’t going to be concerned with Obama’s eligibility,

WOW, does that includes YOU as well???

160 posted on 04/12/2010 10:47:16 PM PDT by danamco (")
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