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Bush Was a Statist, Not a Conservative
CATO @ Liberty ^ | 2010-04-12 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 04/12/2010 10:30:40 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: dools007
RE :”Yo, sickoflibs—Are you supporting the idea we need more taxes—any kind of taxes? Before we get there there needs to be some work done.

Yo, Dooles- “Of course, we need to support Obama taking every DIME of our property :) You object??? You would just lose it anyway on lotto or IPAD. I want more raises for union leaders like with the stimulus with YOUR money.

Seriously, I was just saying that consumption taxes make more sense than investment and income taxes, not that they would be implemented correctly, and I wouldn't want them hidden like VAT and C+T, I would want the tax prices on the price tag.

Back to reality, the only tax increases I support is taxing that 47% that pay NO income taxes now. And forget cutting entitlements, until federal pensions and retiree medical benefits are cut, then we can talk.

61 posted on 04/12/2010 6:03:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=taxes delayed")
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To: ZULU

Clinton was Evil. He just didn’t have a Democrat Congress and a Democrat Senate to aid him. Do you think HillaryCare would have failed if they had had both houses of Congress.

No, Clinton was just as evil as the radical communist Muslim we have now. Clinton was also a radical communist. Both evil.

Both supported by Soros. Both run by Rahm Emanuel and others.

Peas in a pod and both advancing the agenda of their communist handlers as far and as fast as they possibly can. The only difference is that Clinton faced a Republican House and Senate.


62 posted on 04/12/2010 6:16:00 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. When did we vote for Communism?)
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To: ZULU

“Everytime EVERYTIME you have to listen to that Marxist Muslim behind the Presidential Podium - don’t EVER forget who helped put him there - Bush II and John McCain.

America has had a succession of bad Presidents - Bush I, Clinton and Bush II, followed by an EVIL President - Barack Hussein Obama.”

AMEN!!!! People have to realize how this country has lost its direction. It did not happen overnight and the above sentences underscores why. The presidents of the past 25 years have helped create the largest entitlement population this country has ever seen. Just like the unions this group will keep voting themselves the ‘goody continueum’.

What really sticks in my craw was when an interviewer said to Bush II, “most Americans are against amnesty and illegal immigration”, his smug answer was basically I don’t care and “their wrong”. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!


63 posted on 04/12/2010 6:21:38 PM PDT by doc
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To: upsdriver

“History will be kind to Pres. GW Bush.”

I guess you can’t believe everything you read!


64 posted on 04/12/2010 6:24:04 PM PDT by doc
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To: sickoflibs

“Do I have to make this simple ? Republicans are always better than democrats because they are not democrats. If republicans spend a dollar, democrats will spend two. That is 100% improvement (no matter what side you are on.)”

How does it feel to keep voting for the lesser of two evils until you cultivate enough idiots to vote for evil #1, Obama?


65 posted on 04/12/2010 6:27:53 PM PDT by doc
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To: JenB987

“I STILL miss him though.”

He is part of the reason why we are in this mess. Bush was pro big government spending, pro amnesty, pro giving home loans to those that could not afford them, etc....


66 posted on 04/12/2010 6:31:42 PM PDT by doc
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To: genetic homophobe; rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; doc; AuntB; NFHale; ...
RE :”If republicans spend a dollar, democrats will spend two. That is 100% improvement (no matter what side you are on.)

Actually doc reminded me I needed to update this to post- president-you-know-who. Republicans spend a dollar $1.00 and get reelected. So then they spend $1.50 after reelection, learning bigger=better. We get pretty mad at them but we are warned democrats are so evil it doesnt matter what republicans do wrong (that even a child rapist would be better than a rat.) So we elect them a third time and they spend $2.00. Now the voters are so p...ed off that only a few base followers buy the ‘end of the world’ threat line, most stay home or voter third party, some jump over to 'Hope and Change'. So then democrats finally get elected with a massive majority impossible to stop. And they spend $4.00 doubling spending of the prior republicans. So what did we get?

1.00+1.50+2.00+4.00=$8.50. And those same republicans ask: “Miss us yet?”

67 posted on 04/12/2010 6:47:03 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=taxes delayed")
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To: mikelets456

...”under Bush”...

...I slept better after trimin a little bush...

...Sweeping the house was fun, some folks remember it called, Dust My Broom”, Robert Johnson style...


68 posted on 04/12/2010 6:49:50 PM PDT by gargoyle (..."I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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To: Rastus

Not an Adams, Jefferson, Washington, Monroe, Madison or even Jackson among them.


69 posted on 04/12/2010 6:50:42 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Well, yes and no.

Yes their administration was better, but their political ineptitude set the stage for the gang of Marxists in there now.


70 posted on 04/12/2010 6:51:54 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Didn’t know that worm Soros supported that idiot Clinton.

The world would be much better without that bastard Soros.


71 posted on 04/12/2010 6:53:03 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: rabscuttle385

To all of the Harpies and keyword spammers (you know who you are), I couldn’t fit this into the keywords:

“I’ve Abandoned Free Market Principles To Save The Free Market System”.


72 posted on 04/12/2010 7:57:49 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: ZULU
Not an Adams, Jefferson, Washington, Monroe, Madison or even Jackson among them.

Jackson: "But I reckon that the United States is still the only place in the world where a man can cuss the President out loud and all the President can do is cuss back or else go fishin'. That's what I call democracy."

Compare that to what happens now. Palin says Obama's unilateral disarmament is foolish and dangerous, Obama says she is ignorant, Palin replies that Obama is ignorant, and the MSM says Palin didn't respect the office of the POTUS.

73 posted on 04/12/2010 8:05:06 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: supercat
I don't think Bush views conservatives as enemies the same way as e.g. John McCain does.

Generally, I agree except when it came to amnesty for illegal aliens. The point is that there are different grades of RINO's just as there are different grades of conservatives.

Jim DeMint, for instance, is about as solid as a conservative as you can get. But even he has a blind spot when it comes to his colleage Lindsey Graham.

A problem with electing RINOs is that they can almost never be replaced without letting a liberal Democrat have a seat for a term.

Exactly. I can think of few instances where that has not been true. Which is why I will vote for a RINO only when there is no viable alternative.

74 posted on 04/12/2010 8:06:03 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Bush was good...more conservative than Reagan when it comes to dealing with terrorist enemies.


75 posted on 04/12/2010 8:29:58 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: rabscuttle385

The far left....spending all of their time attacking Bush and Palin. Rabadash the paulite troll...spending all of his time attacking Bush and Palin.


76 posted on 04/12/2010 9:12:48 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: sickoflibs
You're still posting? Did you get bored at the Paulite sites or something? Are you going to start preaching Ron Paul's isolationist nonsense again? You are a troll.
77 posted on 04/12/2010 9:27:07 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Riodacat

AS an independent who has kept up with all of the Bush years, it is offensive to me that Bush is NOT called a conservative. The word ‘compassionate” was use in the campaigns, so that it took off the image of his Texas hardline attitude on certain issues....palatable to independents and libertarians needed to win an election.

As I watched the news and participated in both 2000, and 2004 election process, it became clear that some things Bush had to do would be misunderstood by many, due to the powers and policies already in place for ANY president.

I read Karl Rove’s book, and not because I was particularly impressed by him, but to check my facts against his... to see how accurate and truthful he was,...and I was impressed.
All of the facts I had ingested from news around the world, and taken from Fox and other reliable sources matched with his accounts from behind the scenes.

The propaganda of the lamestream media, and Bush bashing that Glenn Beck has done ( and I do like him otherwise) is ludicrous. Maybe Bush was not as far right as you might like but he definately wasn’t a liberal like McCain. In fact, I have spent very little time on FR due to fact that so many have commented like liberals from Huffington Post...to the point, that I believe this website is infested with democrats using this space to influence Freepers to abandan some of the best candidates in 2012.


78 posted on 04/12/2010 9:30:49 PM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: death2tyrants; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker
Rabadash the paulite troll...spending all of his time attacking Bush and Palin.

You lie.

Ninety plus percent of my threads are anti-McCain threads.

And we all know that McCain is a radical progressive who said that we would have "nothing to fear" from Obama.

79 posted on 04/12/2010 10:05:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
Ninety plus percent of my threads are anti-McCain threads.

Rabadash: "Palin is McCain in a skirt...FUSP"

I see you've summoned your idiot attack dogs...perhaps they can share their great wisdom with the forum by making such profound statements like 'Sarah Palin is now the enemy'. Hey, instead of summoning these two bozos, why don't you try explaining why Ron Paul's kooky isolationism is good for America?

80 posted on 04/12/2010 10:23:02 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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