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Mitt Romney Wins GOP Presidential Straw Poll
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| 4/10/2010
Posted on 04/10/2010 8:46:17 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: JDoutrider
Paul HAD to have bought those shoes at the Clown Oversize Emporium!Those shoes say...so much.
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posted on
04/10/2010 11:10:51 PM PDT
by
Allegra
(Pablo is very wily.)
To: AmericanMade1776
Wow, you sure are fast with your language their. LIE, huh?
Gay Marriage happened for the first time anywhere in the USA in Massachusetts when Mitt Romney was Governor. Are you disputing that fact?
In May 2004 Romney instructed town clerks to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples
To: onyx
To: GVnana
This is bs. They are setting us up to make Romney the candidate just like they did McCain. No way.
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posted on
04/11/2010 1:07:54 AM PDT
by
freekitty
(Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
To: GVnana
and that’s the only presidential thing he is going to win
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posted on
04/11/2010 3:29:59 AM PDT
by
The Wizard
(I support Madam President, the only President in America today)
To: GVnana
Last presidential election cycle a RINO was foisted upon us as a result of “open” primaries where crossover democrat voters helped push Juan McLame upon us.
I will NEVER again vote for nor support anyone not a REAL conservative.
While being an attractive male and a successful business man, Mitt Romney is a damned RINO and I for one will not VOTE FOR HIM.
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posted on
04/11/2010 3:40:09 AM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
(Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
To: GVnana
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posted on
04/11/2010 3:55:57 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
To: AmericanMade1776
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posted on
04/11/2010 3:56:29 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
To: AmericanMade1776
GOP-carpetbagger and undercover-backstabber Romney:
"This should bankrupt Massachusetts.
Always remember that I was first to impose Death Panels."
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posted on
04/11/2010 4:00:54 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
To: Nik Naym; AmericanMade1776
AmericanMade1776 (RomneyBOT lying for Romney):
Mitt Romney did not oversee a Financial mess in Massachusetts..
It is true that Romney fled the Commonwealth after RUINING the economy.
RomneyCARE caused the financial mess in Massachusetts.
MITT ROMNEY - THE PROVEN BAD GOVERNOR
"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.
* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.
"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.
In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."
[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]
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posted on
04/11/2010 4:03:48 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
To: AmericanMade1776
AmericanMade1776 (RomneyBOT, disingenuous for her Master):
Ejonesie...there is no such thing as Romneycare..
that is something you idiots rant because you do not understand Massachusetts Politics. besides.. ..
Ejonesie.. you do not even live in Massachusetts.. ..
you are probably just a hillbilly in Arkansas.. am I right? .. Ignoring the attacks of RomneyBOTs on FReepers which I cannot stand,
The issue is ROMNEYCARE. Does it exist? Yes it does.
ObamaCares Future, In Massachusetts Today Supporters of ObamaCare often argue that the new health care law is a lot like
Massachusetts reforms. But that program increasingly is running into problems with
costs and Bay Staters are becoming craftier about gaming the system.
Health insurers have filed suit against the state insurance commissioner:
Nearly a week after Massachusetts regulators disapproved 235 of 274 rate increases filed
by health insurers, citing the rising cost of care, a group of six companies is suing the
state for a move it says will likely cause greater costs and confusion.
Many Massachusetts residents now have insurance coverage but can't find a physician.
56 percent of Massachusetts physicians in internal medicine aren't accepting new patients.
new patients fortunate enough to secure an appointment with a primary care doctor have an average waiting time of 44 days! .
Cahill bashes (MA) state -- and national -- health care reform law
State Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill, an independent candidate for governor, today offered
a wide-ranging and scathing criticism of the states universal health care law, saying it is
bankrupting Massachusetts and will do the same nationally, if a similar plan is passed in
Congress.
"If President Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform
here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American
economy within four years, Cahill said in a press conference in his office.
Echoing criticism leveled by Congressional Republicans in recent weeks, Cahill said, It
is time for the president, the Democratic leadership, to go back to the drawing board and
come up with a new plan that does not threaten to bankrupt this country.
In his defense, Romney admitted to Fox that about half of the real costs of extending
coverage to the uninsured (aka forcing young, healthy people to buy expensive
insurance they dont need) is covered by federal tax dollars. In other words, as expensive
as it is, without federal subsidies it would cost even more.
So when theres a federal Obamacare plan, who do we taxpayers turn to for our
subsidies? China? The United Nations? Mr. Spock and the United Federation of Planets?
Mr. Romney's subsidized coverage is meanwhile doing what entitlements do: crowding
out private insurers, compounding the cost explosion, walking the state toward rationing.
So long as the former governor clings to these central points of his health plan, he's on
the wrong side of free-market policy and public opinion.
This isn't going away for Mr. Romney either, which is why he'd do better by writing off
his own plan as a mistake that Democrats have made worse, and replacing it with a
proposal that deregulates and reforms the private market to lower insurance costs
(thereby achieving greater coverage).
From CATO (the whole article is worthwhile): Before RomneyCare was enacted, estimates of the number of uninsured in
Massachusetts ranged from 372,000 to 618,000. Under the new program, about 219,000
previously uninsured residents have signed up for insurance. Of these, 133,000 are
receiving subsidized coverage, proving once again that people are all too happy to accept
something for free, and let others pay the bill. That is in addition to 56,000 people who
have been signed up for Medicaid. The bigger the subsidy, the faster people are signing
up. Of the 133,000 people who have signed up for insurance since the plan was
implemented, slightly more than half have received totally free coverage.
Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.
Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His companys health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January.
Rationing medicine has already begun
government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.
DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS
President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.
You cant reap these savings without limiting patients choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.
State plan may place limits on patients hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )
"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare]
"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor wantor enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance planwe
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws?
"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."
A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay States Grand Experiment Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romneys gubernatorial watch in 2006, this experiment has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.
Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."
"Severe doc shortage seen hiking wait time
The shortage is getting more severe"
Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The states major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.
Nations ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat
"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the states challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."
"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare
"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"
"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the states marquee universal health care program afloat financially.
"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"
"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...
"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"
"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."
A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay States Grand Experiment Fails [RomneyCare]
fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romneys brainchild, Massachusetts grand experiment in universal health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romneys gubernatorial watch in 2006, this experiment has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
RomneyCare is threatening to bankrupt the state.
"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"
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posted on
04/11/2010 4:07:44 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
To: GVnana
If Romney eventually wins the GOP nomination, then the GOP deserves everything that results and should accept full responsibility for the choice.
I believe the consequences would be profoundly negative. Maybe I wrong.
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posted on
04/11/2010 5:21:20 AM PDT
by
CriticalJ
(Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
To: AmericanMade1776
Ummm, the bill wasn't ‘pushed’ through. Romney willingly SIGNED the bill. I seriously thought you were smarter than that.
To: Diogenesis
Massachusetts 2006 Mitt Romney, Republican
Legislature: Democratic
Final Overall Grade: C
As Mitt Romney launches his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, his fiscal record as governor should be scrutinized. Romney likes to advance the image of himself as a governor who has fought a liberal Democratic legislature on various fronts. Thats mostly true on spending: he proposed modest increases to the budget and line-item vetoed millions of dollars each year only to have most of those vetoes overridden.
But Romney will likely also be eager to push the message that he was a governor who stood by a no-new-taxes pledge. Thats mostly a myth. His first budget included no general tax increases but did include a $500 million increase in various fees. He later proposed $140 in business tax hikes through the closing of loopholes in the tax code. He announced in May 2004 that he wanted to cut the top income tax rate from 5.3 to 5 percent, but that was hardly an audacious stand. Voters had already passed a plan to do just that before Romney even took office. In his budget for 2006, he proposed $170 million more in business tax hikes, almost completely neutralizing the proposed income tax cut. If you consider the massive costs to taxpayers that his universal health care plan will inflict once hes left office, Romneys tenure is clearly not a triumph of small-government activism.
Table 2The Graduating Class: Final Overall Grades of Governors Leaving Office in 2007 Governor State Grade
Jeb Bush (R)Florida B
Kenny Guinn (R)Nevada D
Mike Huckabee (R)Arkansas D
Bill Owens (R)Colorado C
George Pataki (R)New York C
Mitt Romney (R)Massachusetts C
Bob Taft (R)Ohio F
Tom Vilsack (D)Iowa C
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6724
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posted on
04/11/2010 6:27:45 AM PDT
by
GVnana
To: GVnana
Supporters of both Romney and Paul spent money in an effort to win the straw poll, with a group called "Evangelicals for Mitt" paying for 200 tickets for supporters and Paul's Campaign for Liberty offering more than 600 discounted tickets for Paul backers, according to Washington Post's David Weigel. Looks like a case of dishonest politicians buying votes! NO THANK YOU!!!
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posted on
04/11/2010 6:59:25 AM PDT
by
avacado
To: Diogenesis
Thanks that you keep posting this stuff about Romney.
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posted on
04/11/2010 7:32:20 AM PDT
by
svcw
(Religion is like giving someone who is dying of thirst mouthwash.)
To: AmericanMade1776
I guess it’s just in my nature to support plebian crackerheads. Any plebian crackerhead would be better than the current crop of candidates and officeholders.
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posted on
04/11/2010 8:33:05 AM PDT
by
dr_who
To: AmericanMade1776
“I would vote for Mitt Romney”
I sure wouldn’t vote for Mitt. If he won nomination then I would actively go against him. I would then hope someone else ran because then if we get Mitt, we get a Northeast Rino elite.
He is not the person helping to lead the Tea party movement anywhere or doing much to stop anything. The peope talking all the bullets for the RNC are Paul Ryan, Michele Bachmann, Jim DeMint, Liz Cheney, and Sarah Palin.
Mitt is sitting on the sidelines just basking in the sun.
The primaries in 2012 will be a good one. But if the wrong candidate is chosen then the RNC will implode.
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posted on
04/11/2010 8:57:50 AM PDT
by
Mozilla
I will not vote for this man under any circumstances. He is a true wolf in sheep’s clothing, an opportunistic autocrat.
To: GVnana
Yeah, ansell2, because I live in California and I see it everyday and I know it's more complicated than "keeping them on." I guess you read post 151 and know about my vast, personal, and intimate, lifelong experience with and along side illegal aliens even to being a regular in illegals homes.
I'm curious at what you were getting at, what do you do up there in Sacramento, hundreds of miles from the border that you have such an intimate knowledge of the life of the illegal alien?
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posted on
04/11/2010 2:29:09 PM PDT
by
ansel12
( Why are the non "social conservative" Republicans so unconservative?)
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