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The Largest Fraud In History?
King World News ^ | April 10, 2010 | Harvey & Lenny Organ & Adrian Douglas

Posted on 04/10/2010 8:12:49 PM PDT by TCH

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To: Fee

Their was a 18 billion run of withdrawals in one week that put WAMU under.

I saw it happening and for a week they offered a 5% one year CD trying to recover.

I saw it happening and took out a $200k one year.


41 posted on 04/10/2010 9:02:02 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: TCH

Do not go silver or gold ETF because they may have the same problem. All you get is a piece of paper that says you own gold/silver. Some of these ETF’s may be doing the same thing as the commodities exchanges. You can open an IRA trust that will by physical gold approved for IRA accounts. Check out www.bulliondirect.com, and www.apmex.com for info on IRA approved gold for IRA trust accounts that you can personally open.


42 posted on 04/10/2010 9:02:12 PM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: TCH

This appears to be the recycling of a story that is a year old. Try searching on the Hong Kong moves gold bullion.


43 posted on 04/10/2010 9:04:01 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: B4Ranch

LOL! You know better than that!


44 posted on 04/10/2010 9:05:57 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: April Lexington

To be honest, I am scared out of my wits. I am not in a position to take on a mortgage, even though the ONLY way I can preserve wealth is to have tangibles, not paper. I have 11 acres of land here in Nebraska... I have a well, power and trees planted... BUT I cannot commit to building until I am working FT... There is no way the bank will go with only one income... and we figure, at 30 percent of net earnings, that $186,000 is the most we should take on. (That figure being determined by 30 year mortgage and the fact that you generally pay twice the principle in interest... so I gave us a little cushion)

Thought about buying an existing structure, but around here most houses are 40-50 years old, poorly insulated, and not up to code. Then there would be the additional costs of relocating the structure to the site of our land, no small cost there. So the only viable option is to build. Besides, if I am going to pay for a home until I am 80 years old, I damn sure want the house I like, and not some others’ “hand-me-downs” ;)


45 posted on 04/10/2010 9:08:36 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Yes, and especially the commercials that started not long ago, where they tell you to send your gold jewelry in exchange for cash. You gotta be short a few brain cells to fall for that line.


46 posted on 04/10/2010 9:10:33 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: reagan4palin

This one sounds like an urban legend.


47 posted on 04/10/2010 9:11:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Only when it is not a government doing it.


48 posted on 04/10/2010 9:13:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: penelopesire

Neither had I until a friend sent this to me. We both know what is coming and we try to cover our butts, but you can only do so much.


49 posted on 04/10/2010 9:13:39 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: TCH

You might like a house full of history, one several decades older than the norm which got an interior modernization in the last twenty years.


50 posted on 04/10/2010 9:14:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: TCH
now, add the plated tungsten bars accusations...
51 posted on 04/10/2010 9:15:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: bjc

I am aware of that, and I have my suspicions as well, BUT, would you really expect the MSM to broadcast this?


52 posted on 04/10/2010 9:18:04 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: Fee

SH*T too late... But perhaps I am able to do a rollover from the ETF back into a “gold” IRA? Was also considering to roll the ETF into an annuity (Knights of Columbus) that is backed by solid tangibles (land assets) and guarantees 3 percent return annually. However, still have the problem that the ultimate purpose for the IRA/RTF etc is to fund a down payment on a first home. I do not believe that an annuity can be used that way without penalty (seven years before withdrawal, tax only on interest).


53 posted on 04/10/2010 9:25:08 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: Chode

I think that is likely not true... I mean, I do not think the Chi-coms are that stupid... and they are telling their people to buy gold and silver... My guess is that, with having over a billion people, the Chi-com gov would be unable to contain the chaos that would ensue if their fiat currency go belly-up.


54 posted on 04/10/2010 9:30:45 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: All; PA Engineer; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Cheap_Hessian; CJinVA; Jet Jaguar

goldbug ping (with a tip of the hat to JJ)

A few cautions on some of the assertions here:

- The Hong Kong story is from September 3, 2009, and copied to the King World website only the other day, see here for the original http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hong-kong-recalls-gold-reserves-from-london-2009-09-03

- His observation / accusation that the Scotia Moccata vault is virtually empty is supposedly based not on a recent visit but on a 2008 visit and is adamantly disputed by one of SM’s clients here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2488905/posts?page=33#33 I would not be surprised to see SM filing a lawsuit for both libel and slander.

Mail me to get on or off the Free Republic Goldbug Ping List.


55 posted on 04/10/2010 9:31:00 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: TCH

A bit of sampling.... and there’s a lot more out there.... The fraud is real my friend...

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/latest-gold-fraud-bombshell-canadas-only-bullion-bank-gold-vault-practically-empty

http://seekingalpha.com/article/128092-where-does-the-gold-etf-get-its-gold

http://seekingalpha.com/user/60397/comment/394383

http://beforeitsnews.com/news/31384/Will_fraud_lift_gold_prices_to_10,000_ounce.html


56 posted on 04/10/2010 9:33:59 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: bjc

That part of the story is from Sept 2009... BUT the remainder is this April. Now put 2 and 2 together. The Chi-coms have been and still actively continue to purchase large quantities of gold. And you have short selling going to the hilt on gold “stocks” (ETFs). The SHF express is on a fast track, IMO.


57 posted on 04/10/2010 9:36:25 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: dalereed

“Their was a 18 billion run of withdrawals in one week that put WAMU under.

You need to read this—

http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/2010/04/follow_wamu_story_on_capitol_hill.html?ana=twt

and this—

http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2010/04/12/story2.html

“In his first public statement since the seizure of Washington Mutual, former chief executive Kerry Killinger plans to tell a congressional subcommittee that the bank could have survived and that regulators seized it precipitously, according to people familiar with his testimony.

Killinger’s testimony, and that of former WaMu President Steve Rotella, obtained in advance through interviews by the Puget Sound Business Journal, will paint a picture of a bank that was close to stabilizing its finances amid the financial turmoil of 2008.

Killinger plans to use charts and graphs at the April 13 hearing in Washington, D.C., to show the Seattle-based bank’s improving financial condition at the time, and to argue against the “bargain purchase” of WaMu by JPMorgan Chase & Co. The New York bank paid $1.9 billion for WaMu’s $307 billion in assets.”


58 posted on 04/10/2010 9:37:33 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: hiho hiho

O hope WAMU wins their suit.

They were a great bank and Chase sucks!!!


59 posted on 04/10/2010 9:39:08 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Sleeping Freeper

OMG... I am going to be sick... They did a fractional reserve scam with precious metals! Multiple owners (ETFs) on same bar of gold or silver!


60 posted on 04/10/2010 9:43:27 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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