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Ron Paul: Barack Obama is Not a Socialist
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 10, 2010, 4:20 PM ET

Posted on 04/10/2010 1:43:00 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

Florida Anchor Barbara West Responds to Controversial Biden Interview

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,444507,00.html

WEST: You may recognize this famous quote: “From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs.” That’s from Karl Marx. How is Senator Obama not being a Marxist if he intends to spread the wealth around?

BIDEN: Are you joking? Is this a joke?

WEST: No.

BIDEN: Or is that a real question?

WEST: That’s a question.

BIDEN: He is not spreading the wealth around. He’s talking about giving the middle class an opportunity to get back the tax breaks they used to have.

WEST: What do you say to the people who are concerned that Barack Obama will want to turn America into a Socialist country much like Sweden?

BIDEN: I don’t know anybody who thinks that, except the far right-wing of the Republican Party.

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Barbara West Interviews Joe Biden (10/23/08) - Video - WFTV Orlando

http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html


41 posted on 04/10/2010 2:02:44 PM PDT by Son House (The Reagan question to Democrat Majority in Congress; Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?)
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pardon the misspellings on neoMarxist and appropriate


42 posted on 04/10/2010 2:03:08 PM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Corporatist or socialist, what does it matter? We all agree. We don’t want 0bama


43 posted on 04/10/2010 2:03:10 PM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: Sub-Driver

“NUTS!”


44 posted on 04/10/2010 2:03:37 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Sub-Driver
“He’s a corporatist,” Paul quickly added

Yep, a fascist!

45 posted on 04/10/2010 2:03:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
This is just plain bizarre. O is not a corporatist. He hates corporations.

On top of that, corporations wield very little influence with this administration.  If anything, they're cowering in fear over this guy who is abusing his office to control the marketplace.

46 posted on 04/10/2010 2:04:04 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: RichInOC

The takeover of GM was an act of punishment under a system of fascism.

Fascism and corporatism can be defined using many of the same terms.

I prefer to consider Obama not a socialist but as a Fascist, (capital F), and the reason being the key difference between the classical definition of socialism , and the current fascism, ,,

socialism is about the “utilitarian good of the people as a collective”, and so far Obama has not shown that, instead he has perpetrated a policy of the “utilitarian good of the intertwined corporate and political elite”...

Fascists are... Corporatists who have been shown insolence by the corporate and banking elite. Flip side of same coin.

That coin doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Marxist Socialism beyond the extent of keeping the consumption class consuming and keeping the lower classes in chains in the Cave arguing over the flickering shadows on the walls.

Ron Paul makes similar arguments but I can’t discuss his arugments as I haven’t read much about his low opinion of Obama and the Wall Street fleecing in the last 2 years since he exited the primaries.


47 posted on 04/10/2010 2:04:05 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Sub-Driver; All

No, he’s quite right. “Corporatist” is another word for “Fascist.” I’ve made the case several times on here that he is not a socialist, he is a fascist in the technical sense of the word.


48 posted on 04/10/2010 2:04:42 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Sub-Driver
He’s a corporatist,” Paul quickly added, meaning the president takes “care of corporations and corporations take over and run the country.”

but if he tells the corporations how to run the country, then he is a socialist de facto (fascist), rather than a socialist de jure (communist)

49 posted on 04/10/2010 2:04:48 PM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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To: Sub-Driver

I think he got it right, he’s just using an antiquated term. You would recognize it as Fascist. In fact, the term was used to describe Fascism.

corporatism

1890, from corporate + -ism. Used over the years in various senses of corporate, in 1920s-30s often with ref. to fascist collectivism.


50 posted on 04/10/2010 2:05:27 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Poorly worded, what Paul should have said is that Obama is a corporate socialist.
51 posted on 04/10/2010 2:05:38 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Fee

One small issue with your post. Ford did not receive a bailout during this round.


52 posted on 04/10/2010 2:05:47 PM PDT by erikm88
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To: Revolting cat!

At least Ron Paul wants some accountability with the Fed Reserve. Why bash someone who sees this country going down like the Titanic? We need all the help we can get.


53 posted on 04/10/2010 2:05:58 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: TigersEye; Impy

“He’s a corporatist,” Paul quickly added, meaning the president takes “care of corporations and corporations take over and run the country.”

Stick a fork in him. He’s done [politically speaking anyway].


54 posted on 04/10/2010 2:06:32 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Fee
Yes, fascism is closer to the type of socialism that Obama is pushing.
55 posted on 04/10/2010 2:06:42 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: mjp

In other words, he’s either turning to populism or needs a brain scan.


56 posted on 04/10/2010 2:07:34 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: greeneyes
I'll agree with that. In the end, there's not THAT much difference between Communism and German National Socialism as implemented. In Communism, the government owned the means of production; the Nazis allowed private business to continue to own the means of production, but they effectively controlled them through regulation. The net result is pretty much the same.

}:-)4

57 posted on 04/10/2010 2:08:17 PM PDT by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I heard he was going to bus people in for his appearance! hahahahahah....what a klutz. He is such a weird character.

BTW BO has more Fascist leanings at this point than socialist.


58 posted on 04/10/2010 2:08:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: Sub-Driver

If Ron Paul is a nut, then what is the kenyan marxist pig we call presidente?


59 posted on 04/10/2010 2:09:17 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: FrankR

This really cracked me up!


60 posted on 04/10/2010 2:09:18 PM PDT by caww
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