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To: BP2
Again, my FRiend, it just opens up the can of worms once prima facie is introduced in front of a judge.

Non-sequitur. Rather than answer the question, or admit straightforwardly that NO case would have been resolved through the production of the COLB, you've diverted the subject. Frankly, you've implicitly admitted that Obama would only be put through *additional* trouble by producing the COLB.

You and the After-Birthers are working DAMN HARD this weekend to minimalize a case which has (per your assertions) NO chance of winning and will NEVER go anywhere. There are MILLIONS of things to blog about this weekend ... and yet here you are, seemingly wasting your time,

Ad hominem. Rather than respond to the factual errors and logical fallacies I've pointed out, you've attacked me personally.

conversing with "crazy people" (the name- calling doesn't seem to work anymore either, does it?)

Factual error and ad hominem. I haven't engaged in any such name-calling. Specifically, despite your use of quotation marks around "crazy people," I don't believe I've called anyone crazy in any comments here. If I have and have forgotten, please point it out. If you cannot, then I ask that you not attribute any false quotations to me.

572 posted on 04/11/2010 5:31:13 PM PDT by LorenC
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> Non-sequitur ... Ad hominem ... Factual error and ad hominem ...

If you had paid half the attention in college Poli Sci and Written and Oral Advocacy as you did in Bull Moose Middle School Debate class, we wouldn't be having this conversation. LOL.


> you've implicitly admitted that Obama would only be put through *additional* trouble by producing the COLB.

Please tell me, what “trouble” has Obama incurred in producing ANY COLB? HE NEVER HAS PRODUCED IT.

Your argumentum ad antiquitatem seems to be that a candidate in doubt need not show his so-called birth certificate in court once he's POTUS because NO OTHER president has had to do so. You KNOW the DNC attorneys before the election referenced the online Certification at FactCheck in their court responses. An argumentum ad populum and argumentum ad numerum does not an Eligible President make, and yet that's EXACTLY what happened!

Your reliance on the Certification is a factitious post hoc ergo propter hoc argument. You KNOW the Hawaii Certification is an abbreviated Abstract of the original Birth Certificate, missing more than HALF the data fields of the original certificate, particularly the attending physician, physical location of birth, Registrar Date of ACCEPTANCE, etc.

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I can give you DOZENS of ways Hawaii §338 can be abused and loopholed by someone who wished to do so, including sealing original birth records by way of an Adoption via the Hawaii Family Court. I can also provide you with HUNDREDS of examples of criminals who have gone to underground sources to acquire FAKE birth certificates. Your BLIND FAITH in Obama, who has proven his ability to DECEIVE over and over again, is shocking and shows you are utterly disconnected with the real world where illegal aliens, child smugglers and Welfare moochers can acquire a FAKE birth certificate for just a few hundred dollars.

The parents of children entering kindergarten ALL across the nation next year are being asked to produce a copy of their child's ORIGINAL birth certificate, not an abbreviated Abstract. So is Lt Col Lakin. The same level of proof should at least appear in a court room to once-and-for-all Legitimize the ONE man who rules the Executive branch of government.


> I haven't engaged in any such name-calling.

Excuse my dicto simpliciter generalization ... although YOU may not have called anyone names in this thread, it is the norm for Obama supporters who come in here disguising themselves as Conservatives.

However — and please answer this, and without the dodge once again: WHY do you waste your time on a case that your side believes will GO NOWHERE?

The Department of Defense, Justice Department & US Attorneys Office ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE of fighting off this so-called ridiculous and hopeless case. And yet, here you are ... wasting your precious time blogging about it.

Why?


580 posted on 04/11/2010 8:52:02 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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