[BP2]

There is no sign, based off of correspondence and writings about the Constitution by the framers, that they had “Vattel’s law of Nations” in mind.

You're just a glutton for punishment, aren't you?

[Red Steel]

He’s a glutton at ignorance.

[Mr Rogers]

There is no sign they used ‘natural born citizen’ as holding some special legal meaning. It was adopted without discussion or debate.

The phrase was sometimes used in letters and other documents of the time. For example, John Jay wrote:

“Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

Further, the clause in the Constitution states:

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

So someone who was born elsewhere, but was a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted, was good to go - assuming he had resided for 14 years in the USA.

Kind of hard on the ‘Anyone with tainted blood’ theory.

No court will be looking for an excuse to overturn a national election.

Any court will be looking for justification to uphold the will of the people. The Constitution, the example of history, the usage of the phrase in letters and common sense all align with saying Obama qualifies as a ‘natural born citizen’.

There is ZERO chance the Supreme Court or any other Court will invalidate the election of 2008. Deal with it!

[little jeremiah]

Reading these threads studded with your comments is a pleasure and a joy.

[Las Vegas Ron]

LOL, I knew you were going to knock that out of the park.