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To: devere
“Lt Col Lakin may be mistaken in his belief that he will be able to subpoena Obama’s birth records to defend himself.

But I have difficulty understanding how any rational and intelligent person could possibly believe that Obama is constitutionally eligible to serve as President. He clearly is not. Apart from the likelihood that Barry was born in Mombasa, Kenya, his father at the time of his birth was quite certainly a citizen of the British Empire.

The only argument I can see that might possibly convince an honest judge is that Obama’s eligibility is a political matter to be decided only by Congress.”

First off, I think there is almost no chance Obama was born in Kenya. The mere idea of a woman who had never been to Kenya in her life deciding, in late pregnancy, to complete a journey arduous by the logistics of plane travel at that time is pretty absurd. There is no meaningful evidence to support that proposition, simply the desire that it be true.

Second, why do you believe that having a foreign national father makes his non-NBC status obvious to any rational observer? An actual American Court in the state of Indiana stated last year that argument was incorrect. There is a clear legal and historical case for foreign national children born here being considered NBCs that has been noted at length in an actual Supreme Court decision (on another subject). The 14th Amendment provides a conceptual basis for recognizing no distinction between a child born here with two citizen parents and a child born here with one foreign national parent. Now that doesn't all have to mean that you are wrong, but it certainly means there is a rational basis for disagreement.

106 posted on 04/09/2010 6:01:26 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative; devere
First off, I think there is almost no chance Obama was born in Kenya.

No chance? None at all? It never happened? No way?

BBC via a Nairobi newspaper said Obama was born in Kenya:


108 posted on 04/09/2010 6:05:26 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: tired_old_conservative
First off, I think there is almost no chance Obama was born in Kenya. The mere idea of a woman who had never been to Kenya in her life deciding, in late pregnancy, to complete a journey arduous by the logistics of plane travel at that time is pretty absurd. There is no meaningful evidence to support that proposition, simply the desire that it be true.

What makes you think she started off in "late" pregnancy? She did not enroll for classes at U of Hawaii for the spring '61 semester. The marriage took place in February. She could have left anytime after that. August is a long time from February.

109 posted on 04/09/2010 6:06:41 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: tired_old_conservative

According the to the Kenya grandmother, she was already there in Kenya and wanted to go back and the airlines would not let her.


284 posted on 04/10/2010 4:41:42 AM PDT by panthermom
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