Army Calls ‘Birther’ Doc’s Bluff

Military.com ^ | April 9, 2010 | Bryant Jordan

[jamese777]

Well, if you deny that he is Marxist, and even dictatorial, it is you who need the rubber room, friend.
I do not have to think anything in re the GOP legislative caucus meeting with Obama, that happened. Like Chameberlain arriving back by GB with agreement in hand — great evil in the present can be unseen by the most elite, by most of the most.

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A Marxist bails out the major institutions of free market capitalism: banks and corporations. Yeah, right!
Obama must be one of those newfangled marxists, the corporatist-marxist!
Its hard to be a dictator when Obama no longer has a filibuster proof Senate.

[STARWISE]

Nov. 21, 2008

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14

[William Tell]

verity said: I have no idea how your response relates to your original bizarre question : “Would you be among the soldiers firing on the Militia attempting to enforce a Supreme Court order?”

I was proposing a hypothetical from the Watergate era wherein a soldier recieves an order through his chain of command from the Commander-in-Chief to opppose through force of arms a legitimate order from the Supreme Court.

A soldier refusing such an order would be subject to court-martial. Upon conviction and appeal to the Military Appeals Court, the soldier may then appeal his conviction to the Supreme Court of the United States.

Do you think that the Supreme Court of the United States, having ordered Richard Nixon to turn over audio tapes, would then uphold the conviction of a soldier who refused to take up arms to oppose the carrying out of that same order?

If the Militia mounted an armed effort to carry out the Supreme Court's order, would the Supreme Court uphold a conviction of a soldier who refused to fire on the Militia?

If you were a soldier, would you obey an order to fire on someone carrying out such an order from the Supreme Court of the United States?

If the question seems bizarre, it is due to the rarity with which unlawful military orders are issued. If you can find a less "bizarre" way to consider how a soldier can refuse to carry out unlawful orders, feel free to do so.

[curiosity]

Well, if you deny that he is Marxist, and even dictatorial, it is you who need the rubber room, friend.

Anyone who says Obama is a Marxist doesn't understand the meaning of the term and has a lot of reading to do.

The best description of Obama's politics is "corporatist social democrat" in the German tradition. If he were German, his views would put him squarely within the moderate wing of the the Social Democratic Party.

That's not to say he's not dangerous. Remaking the US in the image of modern Germany is far from a desireable thing, and in many ways would destroy what's uniquely good about America.

But let's be realistic about what he is. He's not a socialist. He's not a Marxist. He's not a fascist. He's a corproratist social democrat, nothing more and nothing less.

[bushpilot1]

Home country.

JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN ANCHOR: We’ve been — spent much of this day listening to reaction here in the United States to the removal of Elian Gonzalez from the home of his relatives in Miami and his reunion with his father at Andrews Air Force Base near Washington. Now we want to go south to Elian Gonzalez’s home country, to Cuba, to our own Martin Savidge who is there in Havana.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0004/22/bn.24.html

[bvw]

Obama is a Marxist, I do understand the meanings of that term. I was also taught Chicago politics by a Marxist.

[bvw]

Thanks for the informative post. Also do not forget the Marxism-redux New Party, which begat ACORN and now the ‘Working Families’ Party. Obama belonged to a New Party group in Chicago.

It is clear that some strong cohort of Unions Organizers are Marxist in basic philosophy and that they work together constantly towards what they consider to be Marxist goals. Not all union organizers — that’s for sure. For a couple of examples: Jimmy Hoffa and the Mine Unions where never communists or Marxists.

[Cicero]

In the German tradition? Marx was German.

Even the USSR referred to its government as “socialist,” because the Communist utopia was yet to come. But those involved were, by common consent, referred to as Communists.

Obama was deeply involved in the founding of the s0-called New Party in Chicago, which simply amounted to a relabeling of Communism. His mother was a Communist, his mentor was a Communist, and many of his closest associates were—and are—Communists.

[BP2]

How does this relate to Lafkin’s refusal to deploy?

Because in high profile cases, especially involving politicians, the reality is that the Court system often follows the lead of the Court of Public Opinion.

ASK Nixon, Bill Clinton, Blaggo and many others. They could no longer dodge the Courts (i.e., Political Question) when their approval ratings were low. The public complains to their other elected politicians and FORCE Court action when there was Court INaction. Truth be known (no matter how unsavory as it may sound): Judges and prosecutors generally don't go after popular (thus powerful) politicians.

Furthermore, Lt Col Lakin's case has the strong potential to be the case that focuses the efforts of MILLIONS of very vocal Americans who question Obama's Eligibility.

And seeing how Obama's approval rating downward-spiral to 43 percent shows NO signs of abating, he has a decreasing amount of Political Capital to fend off those who want to see him GONE, regardless of the means of removal.

Despite the circumstantial evidence that Obama has LIED about his past, let's just say FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, that this is ALL a misunderstanding ... a growing number of people won't believe him anyway, regardless of any proof he were to cough up.

Some on the Left (and Right) have suggested that Soros or someone else will come forward with an October surprise this year, to somehow embarrass the GOP in the eyes of the MSM and Moderates and steal the 2010 election ... a two-year-old, Rovian-type of pre-planned sucker punch, aimed first at the Hillary campaign, climaxing when Obama whips an Original Birth Certificate out of his back pocket, forever proving he was born in Hawaii.

LOL — we've seen the bungling Team Obama in action in the White House ... they're not that sophisticated. They're delaying & obfuscating, not springing a two-year-old trap.

Regardless, MILLIONS would STILL NOT believe anything refuting Obama's claims at this point, even IF it WERE somehow true.

IF SOMEHOW TRUE, Obama's so-called Eligibility "hoax" has now become a self-consuming monster and a self-perpetuating truth, forever working AGAINST Obama, not FOR him. An unintentional backfire if ever it was a plot.

As Lenin himself said:

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth"

[bushpilot1]

Has LTC Lakin processed his clearance papers..that is the question..

[Red Steel]

Excellent overview of the political atmosphere and analysis of the clumsy Obama Administration.

[curiosity]

In the German tradition? Marx was German.

Marx is not the only German political philosopher, and not all German political philosophers were Marxists. Most weren't, in fact.

Obama's very much in the corporatist tradition that goes back to Bismark.

Even the USSR referred to its government as “socialist,” because the Communist utopia was yet to come. But those involved were, by common consent, referred to as Communists.

Ture, but Obama is neither communist nor socialist. He's a corporatist social democrat. There's a difference. Look it up.

Obama was deeply involved in the founding of the s0-called New Party in Chicago, which simply amounted to a relabeling of Communism.

Nope. You either do not know what the New Party stands for, or you do not understand what Communism is.

His mother was a Communist, his mentor was a Communist,

Wrong on both counts.

and many of his closest associates were—and are—Communists.

Such as who?

[Canadian Outrage]

These obamabot trolls flock to these threads like flies to a cowpie!! I don’t know why anyone bothers to argue with them. IGNORE them. CO

[Seizethecarp]

“Furthermore, Lt Col Lakin’s case has the strong potential to be the case that focuses the efforts of MILLIONS of very vocal Americans who question Obama’s Eligibility.”

Thanks for all of your great posts.

What Lakin’s case has the chance of making clear to the public is that if Obama actually has nothing to hide there is no reason for Obama to continue to refuse to release his original HI vital records.

If a Lakin court martial actually begins, MSM coverage will be hard pressed to hide Obama’s willful failure of transparency regarding his own eligibility.

This framing of the situation as the Army “calling Lakin’s bluff” is an obviously Alinsky-style corruption of logic.

What is happening here is that LTC Lakin is calling Obama’s "trust me" bluff that his hidden HI vital records prove Obama’s eligibility.

[Las Vegas Ron]

His mother was a Communist, his mentor was a Communist,
Wrong on both counts.
and many of his closest associates were—and are—Communists.
Such as who?

You just lost any credibility on this site you may have had with that comment.

[Red Steel]

You just lost any credibility on this site you may have had with that comment.

That certainly was crazy and stupid comment. LoL!

[Canadian Outrage]

No kidding this “curiosity” lost ALL credibility with that diatrible of absolute nonsense. A corpratist? Not a communist, no communist mentors blah blah blah. Uh, lets see, Frank Marshall something (forget his last name)? Friends - Van Jones, Marxists - Ayers et al. It’s beyond flaky. This guy lives in an alternate universe. CO

[verity]

Have you noticed my tag line?

If Lafkin refuses to deploy, he can be tried by Courts Martial. Such a proceeding is not subject to the “Court of Public Opinion.”

In fact, if I were still on Active Duty and selected to be a member of the court and the defense had nothing to offer to refute Lafkin’s violation of the UCMJ, my secret written ballot would contain the word "Guilty."

[Canadian Outrage]

I remember now - FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS!! CO

[Red Steel]

Here’s another name Van Jones.