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To: jay099

There’s a divorce decree, but no sign of a marriage certificate (although one is claimed to be in the marriage index). The real problem is that if Barak Sr. was a bigamist, then his offspring under an illegal marriage would not be recognized under British laws as citizens. What may happen then is that you look modern U.S. statutues that say a child born out of (legal) wedlock has the citizenship of its mother regardless of where it is born. IOW, the little bastard would be a citizen at birth, even if born in Kenya, however this doesn’t mean he fits the Constitutional definition of natural born citizen.


71 posted on 04/09/2010 9:45:41 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

Lol, interesting. But the law at the time stated that his mother must be 19 (lived in the US for 5 years after the age of 14) to confer citizenship to her son which means that the only way he could have received US citizenship and natural born status (possibly) was by being born in the US. So the only way he could possibly be born anywhere but this country and still be a citizen is if he was born out of wedlock, which he clearly states he was not.


72 posted on 04/09/2010 10:04:48 AM PDT by jay099
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To: edge919

Scratch what I said just a moment ago. I confused the terms myself. From what I’m reading here (http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Military-discharge) you’re right about the President being able to dismiss any officer without a court-martial but it also says that the officer can demand a court-martial to clear his name. If they are still not granted a court-martial then the military must give him an ‘administrative discharge’ instead of a ‘dismissal’.

So... it looks like if LTC Lakin is not given a court-martial to clear his name then he will be given an ‘administrative discharge’. If he is given an ‘administrative discharge’ then there are no real consequences from rejecting orders and then all military officers could reject orders from Obama without fear of being imprisoned or receiving a dismissal. It looks like it’s well worth the donation for LTC Lakin’s case.

http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Military-discharge

“The President of the United States can order that a commissioned officer be dismissed from the service, as all commissioned officers “serve at the pleasure of the President.” However an officer who is dismissed by order of the President can demand a trial by court-martial to clear his or her name. If a court-martial is not convened, or if the officer is acquitted, then the Service Secretary of the branch that the officer is assigned to must then issue an administrative discharge in lieu of a dismissal.”


73 posted on 04/09/2010 10:18:10 AM PDT by jay099
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