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CBO chief says debt 'unsustainable'
Politico ^ | 4/8/2010 | JONATHAN ALLEN

Posted on 04/08/2010 7:30:02 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: WOBBLY BOB
Do they really think it's going to 'slip by' people that they are the ones who CAUSED the unsustainable debt?

I know they think we're all stupid, but c'mon!

41 posted on 04/08/2010 8:31:14 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: tarpit

“Wall Street got us into this mess, not Main street.”

No, CONGRESS and their BS tinkering with the free market system is what primarily caused this mess! Now, you want to give the idiots who created the problem the right to fix the problem?

“Eliminate the tax after the debt is under control.”

You mean like the long distance phone tax which was enacted to help pay for the Spanish-American war in 1898? Which apparently didn’t get “paid for” until 2006? And when they got rid of the “long distance” tax, they RAISED the local call tax rate!

Let’s not let the patients continue to run the asylum!


42 posted on 04/08/2010 8:33:15 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Unsustainable.

You think?


43 posted on 04/08/2010 8:35:42 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Contrived collapse of America. I wonder where the politicians et al will run to if and when the people finally realize they've been had intentionally and decide to exact justice? Justice? What kind of example should be set when dealing with the likes of the scum we have in DC today?
44 posted on 04/08/2010 8:36:12 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: ExTxMarine
IMHO, the biggest problem facing our nation is the unsustainable debt. This has to be fixed. We can blame Congress all day long, but that does not fix the problem. Sure, we can elect new leadership, but that does not fix the problem. Somebody had better get this under control quickly or the US will be a third world country.

Serious budget cuts (and ending govt subsidies) are necessary. Taxes will have to be raised. The only question left is which taxes? Increasing the rate for those households that actually do pay federal income (about 53% of all households), will not be enough.

So they looked at a national sales tax (supported by some national group of accounting firms), but that would not be politically good for democrats. Now they are looking at implementing a Value Add Tax.

We were headed towards this crisis for some time. We just arrived real early because of Wall Street. So, IMHO, cut spending, minimize govt subsidies, and implement a Financial Instrument Trade tax.

45 posted on 04/08/2010 8:48:24 PM PDT by tarpit
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To: Red in Blue PA

They’ll hear only one part of this statement. They must raise taxes.

This country will not survive until 2012 if this keeps up.


46 posted on 04/08/2010 8:51:21 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: alloysteel

My theory is the south has been sending more money to DC than we’re getting back so they can kiss our red asses.

Well, Texas has been anyway.


47 posted on 04/08/2010 8:54:51 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: tarpit

I agree that the single largest problem facing the US today is our unsustainable debt. But, the problem is that, just like in Europe, taxes do not go away! Nor do they shrink! And even if budget cuts are instituted, as soon as the “fix” money stars hitting the coffers, the idiots who have been running this country (Dems & Reps) are going to start spending like drunken sailors - it isn’t pretty, I have seen in up close and personal!

Europe has been trying to tax their way out of debt for over 40 years and all they have done is kill their own economy and extend benefits to the “poor” because they can’t get decent jobs - oh, because the taxes are killing the company.

It’s the old brick wall, strike head, get headache, repeat syndrome! We CANNOT tax our way out of this problem! We need to GROW our way out of this problem! We need to CUT taxes across the board, cut the US government budget by AT LEAST 40% and then we need to require a constitutional amendment for a balanced budget/deficit reducing budget going forward!

We will never be able to tax ourselves out of this debt! NEVER! It cannot be done, ask ANY country in Europe!


48 posted on 04/08/2010 9:05:05 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Richard Kimball

“the blue staters would just foul their nests then move to the red states”

nah uh.......no way....we WOULD secure OUR borders....


49 posted on 04/08/2010 9:07:38 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Am I the only one that forgets I'm not on FB & tries to "like" freeper comments?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Democrat party strategy: send spending and debt tyranny into the straosphere.

THEN whine endlessly in one of the democrat party media’s totally insincere campaigns about how about how we MUST control the debt with massive new taxes.


50 posted on 04/08/2010 9:09:29 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: tarpit

Every single tax dollar pulled out of the American worker’s pocket, even those designed to reduce deficit, are dollars that do not go back in to growing our economy.

It’s like pulling money out of your left pocket and putting it into your right pocket - then exclaiming that you now have twice as much money! No, you do not!

Until you make MORE money and CONTROL your spending, you are going to continue to be broke.

That is the problem with this entire administration! You cannot make one part of society rich, by stealing from the other part of society! You have to grow the economy across the board and allow everyone to be lifted!


51 posted on 04/08/2010 9:11:15 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

How can this motherfu*ker look at his face in the mirror while shaving every morning ???


52 posted on 04/08/2010 9:14:03 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: FormerACLUmember
So the head of the BAO thinks our projected debts are more than we can pay. Well Big WHOOP, where has this A##Ho^^ been for the last two years. I don't want any more professional trough feeders telling me how bad things are. I want someone that will tell me how to stop this monetary Bleeding.The Dems have gone completely Ape Sh** about spending money, money that we don't have. How do we get them to stop. Stop spending, and increase taxes to pay the debt down.
53 posted on 04/08/2010 9:16:41 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Vote for Pedro)
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To: ExTxMarine
Even if we could cut the yearly budget to zero, that would be like cutting up a credit card. It does not solve the existing balance problem. The only question is how? Raising tax rates on those households that do pay is impractical (in other words, they cannot raise enough to make a difference). Raising corporate taxes will hinder growth, leaving unemployment at unacceptable levels.

Given current events, they will most likely impose a Value Added Tax, like Europe. That is the wrong approach, IMHO, as it will move discretionary monies away from business into the hands of the government. Taxing the Wall Street trades makes more sense to me than anything else they are proposing.

54 posted on 04/08/2010 9:17:12 PM PDT by tarpit
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To: tarpit

“Taxing the Wall Street trades makes more sense to me than anything else they are proposing.”

Where do you think that money comes from? Our economy as a whole! The largest employer of American workers are the small business owners, correct? Where do the small business owners get their money to run and maintain and grow their businesses? From larger companies and people who INVEST in Wall Street.

You don’t want them to rob Peter to pay Paul, now you want them to rob Peter slightly less, but it’s okay because they are now going to rob Patrick too!

When you say “Wall Street” who do you think you are talking about? I have a 401K through my company which works that income through Wall Street - you are taxing ME (along with almost ever working person out there) again. So, you didn’t rob Peter and Patrick, you just robbed Peter twice.

Again, we CANNOT tax our way out of this situation. We have to GROW our way out! And you are right, cutting the credit card doesn’t solve the problem - that’s why I said we have to have more income! The US government does not make money - they collect it - period! We need to GROW what they can collect!


55 posted on 04/08/2010 9:25:30 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

And in other news, the Pope is Catholic...


56 posted on 04/08/2010 9:29:19 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
And in other news, the Pope is Catholic...

And the Pope's Polish ... wait a minute - that was the other guy ...

Lets go with this ... And a wild bear sh*ts in the woods ...

57 posted on 04/08/2010 9:45:10 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Red in Blue PA

Has this kind of thing ever turned out well?


58 posted on 04/08/2010 10:04:50 PM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: pb929

...pretty much what’s going on in Japan right now.

But we’re too stubborn to learn from others’ mistakes.


59 posted on 04/08/2010 10:06:18 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

please someone tell me....WHAT ARE THE DIRE CONSEQUENCES?


60 posted on 04/08/2010 10:15:55 PM PDT by cherry
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