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To: Spok

Free market is also runned by people who are disciplined and has some degree of ethics. Creating an investment vehicles that are designed to eventually blow up and leave someone holding the bag is not exactly smart economics nor good for the nation. If a serious investigation was ever conducted on the mortgage business, how Moody rated high risk securities as AAA, and knowingly selling collapsing products as low risk investments to unsuspecting investors need to be looked at. What we potentially have on Wall Street was not free markets but white collar crime. The sad part is the argument over capitalism is just BS, while the government is tied up over this issue, the ones who made tons of money on the crime are laughing all the way to the bank while the statue of limitation clock is running. Some say this is too big to investigate. The choke point is Moody and how they rated the mortgage backed securities AAA, and the second point is every mortgage that is a liar loan can be subject to scrutiny. Either the borrower goes to jail, or the mortgage originator goes to jail. Each guy you catch, you flip him for info and he will turn in the guy up his chain who told him to do the fraud.


20 posted on 04/08/2010 5:45:01 PM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Fee
[Free market is also runned by people who are disciplined and has some degree of ethics.]
The market is amoral and goes where the bottom line tells it to.   If there was buffering by a Moral/Ethical Compass, it has been significantly decayed pursuant to the progressive demoralization of American society.
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1. Ideological subversion is the process which is [a] legitimate, old word, and open. You can see it with your own eyes.  All American mass media has to do is to "unplug bananas" from their ears, open up their eyes,  and they can see it.  There is no mystery.  
 
It has nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic.  It sells more deodorants through the advertising.  That's probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all.
 
According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization"....
---KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov, circa 1984
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[Creating an investment vehicles that are designed to eventually blow up and leave someone holding the bag is not exactly smart economics]
It is if you're not the one holding the bag.  
 
Hos 12:7
7 The merchant  uses dishonest scales; he loves to defraud.
NIV
 
Plus they didn't believe the vehicles would blow up.   The industry was under the shared delusion that "Real estate always goes up".    Oops!
[nor good for the nation]
Why would an industry built using H1B slave laborers whose feet were being dangled over the fires of the caste system care about cash-cow America?   The Sub-prime industry essentially became an engine for wealth redistribution.  Might have even kept running too - if folks hadn't gotten greedy and gamed the system into self-destruction.
[If a serious investigation was ever conducted on the mortgage business, how Moody rated high risk securities as AAA]
The ratings were based upon the information supplied with the loans.  Argent mortgage, for example, was fabricating FICO scores.   For Liar Loans, the FICO score is the only number of meaning regarding he borrower's credit worthiness.
 
Combine with less-than-reliable appraisals... and you have AAA A$$PAPER (and a bubble expanding at an accelerated rate) in the making.
It's good that you're asking questions though, Fee.   Keep digging until you are satisfied you see the truth with your own eyes and mind... and then dig some more; THAT is an essential American Freedom we still have, for now.
 
"ALMIGHTY GOD HATH CREATED THE MIND FREE"
--Thomas Jefferson

23 posted on 04/08/2010 7:55:09 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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