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Obama Admin. Mulling National Sales Tax: 'Value Added Tax' Has People Screaming To Heck With 'Vat'
WCBS-TV ^ | April 7, 2010 | Marcia Kramer

Posted on 04/07/2010 3:11:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: DustyMoment

Oregon, not California.


21 posted on 04/07/2010 3:21:44 PM PDT by Publius (The prudent man sees the evil and hides himself; the simple pass on and are punished.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, if the USA wants to be “cool” like the Europeans, then a VAT is what it will take to make us cool.

In my travels I have noted those socialist countries with ‘healthcare’ also have VAT of 20% or so.

The dingbats who voted for Obama are going to find their bottle of White Lightning just went up in price. Sorry dingbats. Nothing in life in free.


22 posted on 04/07/2010 3:21:56 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We need to get the deficit under control. I favor doing it by not spending the way we are. Increased revenues to the government just give it more of a base to overspend from. If the VAT passes, along with the scheduled 2011 tax increases (repeal of the Bush tax cuts), and the medical tax increases on investment income, there will be tremendous headwinds on teh economy.

If the spending keeps up at projected levels without the tax increases, we'll get an even bigger crash down the road when we can't roll over debt, the dollar crashes, and inflation goes through the roof.

23 posted on 04/07/2010 3:23:17 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bend Ovah for the VAT up yer wallet!


24 posted on 04/07/2010 3:23:26 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up aginst the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No VAT until they completely abolish income and corporate taxes.


25 posted on 04/07/2010 3:23:30 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Jose Barro, an economist for the Manhattan Institute, told CBS 2 HD that the vat might work if the government agreed to reduce personal income and corporate taxes at the same time.”

The history of taxation in Europe and the history of both the US income tax and SS tax (both of which started out very small on a very small fraction of the population) does not make one optimistic about this prospect.

Indeed the history of government and taxation in western democracies generally illustrates that Americans’ distrust of government is well-placed. Governments inevitably over-promise and under-deliver, meaning that well-intentioned government programs inevitably cost more and deliver less than originally promised. This results in ever-higher levels of taxation.

Ironically, the countries that have adopted the most sensible approach to taxation—flat taxes on consumption—are former communist countries. Once they threw off the chains of totalitarian rule, these countries often adopted flat-tax systems that minimized the burden on the average citizen and inhibited the temptation by government to use the tax system for social engineering—i.e., awarding tax breaks for favored activities or interests.

An organization committed to freedom like the Manhattan Institute should be using its megaphone to resist VAT, not offering rationalizations for its adoption.


26 posted on 04/07/2010 3:23:55 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Jim Robinson
IMPEACH THE AMERICA-KILLER
27 posted on 04/07/2010 3:23:57 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well it’s nice that you have an opinion, but we won.

Now you’ll pay the tax and smile while you’re doing it.

-your friends on the left


28 posted on 04/07/2010 3:24:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Food and Malt Liquor will be exempt!


29 posted on 04/07/2010 3:24:27 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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"They're trying to make those of us who have a few bucks poor so everyone will be poor and everyone will be the same," added Charlotte Wein of Midtown. "

DING DING DING!! We have a winner!
30 posted on 04/07/2010 3:24:58 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Run spending through the roof then say we have no choice but to levy gigantic taxes, but we will give refunds to the underclass so they don’t get hurt. Vote for Obama.

LOL ... redistribution, reparations ...


31 posted on 04/07/2010 3:25:28 PM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: AGreatPer

O and the Crats have got to be thrown out..QUICK!


32 posted on 04/07/2010 3:26:01 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And people thought gov’t run healthcare was gonna be free!


33 posted on 04/07/2010 3:26:18 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny that the people whining about this the loudest probably don’t pay ANY federal income tax.


34 posted on 04/07/2010 3:27:23 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Knowing liberals - it won’t be a “VAT” in place of income tax - it’ll be a VAT PLUS income tax. What was that promise Obama made about not raising taxes on those making less than a certain amount. I’ll bet the New York Times has already forgotten he ever made such a promise...


35 posted on 04/07/2010 3:27:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

President Body Odor is stinkin up the joint.


36 posted on 04/07/2010 3:28:07 PM PDT by Danae ( The sleeping Giant is awake)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NY has two open Senate seats and there is still no Republican running for either seat? These people vote Dem and they expect the Dems will stop trying to take everything they have?


37 posted on 04/07/2010 3:28:26 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are campaign “donations” subject to the VAT?


38 posted on 04/07/2010 3:28:41 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

You meant to say Night Train or Thunderbird, right?? Possibly MD 20/20???


39 posted on 04/07/2010 3:28:43 PM PDT by eyrish69 (Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is finally done.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Damn VATscists.


40 posted on 04/07/2010 3:29:23 PM PDT by SoCalConstitutionalist
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