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To: Star Traveler
Well..., you might want to consider this answer to that question you asked... "Because the President has the authority to do that." It could be as simple an answer as that.

Well....DOES he really have that authority? It's hard for me to believe the writers of the Constitution did not have the forethought to limit such powers of an elected official. Aren't there three co-equal branches of government in America? Like I said, I don't know all that the Constitution grants a CIC. I would, however, think that something as critical as national security cannot be left to the whims of one man!

I totally agree with you that we must get out and vote for the right people - and I do whenever I can - but what about the responsibilities of those already IN office? It sure seems like the threats of "We won't vote for you next time." doesn't make a huge difference in the here and now. Marches on DC by hundreds of thousands of the TP's was totally ignored and downplayed recently.

BTW...as a Christian, this kind of current activity in DC is to be expected in the last days. It certainly feels like end-times stuff. But I still don't think we should be found "just lying back and enjoying it while being raped!".

I love my country, but I love my God more, so I will accept his will - when I KNOW IT IS HIS WILL! Thanks for your posts - I know where you're comin' from!

249 posted on 04/05/2010 9:27:36 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
You were saying ...

Well....DOES he really have that authority? It's hard for me to believe the writers of the Constitution did not have the forethought to limit such powers of an elected official. Aren't there three co-equal branches of government in America? Like I said, I don't know all that the Constitution grants a CIC. I would, however, think that something as critical as national security cannot be left to the whims of one man!

Well, to tell you the truth, a long time before Obama was ever around, I thought the President had the authority in that area. I see it as a function of being Commander in Chief.

Now, I would agree that I don't like the policy, but that doesn't mean that I think he doesn't have that power by virtue of the office he holds.


I totally agree with you that we must get out and vote for the right people - and I do whenever I can ...

Of course, the problem here is that even with you and me and other FReepers and other conservatives and those voting for the GOP -- it is still not enough votes. We saw that this last Presidential election.

Now, that may have been a "one-time thing" and it may not turn out that way again, especially with the jobs picture going downhill real fast now.

The problem -- it seems to me -- is not simply "get out the vote" (for the GOP) -- the real problem is that it's getting to be that if you get out all the votes -- there's still not enough votes there. And that's a really big problem, unfortunately.


It sure seems like the threats of "We won't vote for you next time." doesn't make a huge difference in the here and now. Marches on DC by hundreds of thousands of the TP's was totally ignored and downplayed recently.

I think this is a reflection of what I said just before this... "there are not enough votes". Sure we mobilize a lot of people, but it still turns out to be not enough to unseat a President in an election -- it's simply "not enough".

And if it's "not enough" -- then you're not going to get those in office to listen, no matter what.

I don't know the practical answer to that one...


BTW...as a Christian, this kind of current activity in DC is to be expected in the last days. It certainly feels like end-times stuff. But I still don't think we should be found "just lying back and enjoying it while being raped!".

No, you don't want to go along with it, but at the same time, not going along with it doesn't mean that we're going to win it, either. And that is one big problem with this situation -- if -- we are in the end times -- because we won't be "winning" during those times. That's because things will progress real fast towards a one-world government where the United States won't be a significant power in the world -- at least the Bible doesn't show the U.S. being a significant or relevant world power, at that time of these end times events.

So, we may be headed that way right now.

For a Christian, the main point of not being "for" these things is not so much to "win or lose" -- but rather -- what it does is simply show what side you're on, when it comes down to matters that make a difference to God. And that's what we should be paying attention to.

For one thing, the big thing that makes a "real big difference" to God, right now -- is very simply -- getting out the Gospel of Salvation to everyone in the world, so that, at least, they have knowledge of it, and can make their own choice.

And lastly, we're not running the world, God is the one who is running the world, as I'm sure you know, too... :-)


I love my country, but I love my God more, so I will accept his will - when I KNOW IT IS HIS WILL! Thanks for your posts - I know where you're comin' from!

Just do the right thing by what you know that God wants you to do -- and it doesn't matter whether you "win or lose" because you're telling whether you're on God's side or not -- and that's what really matters.

I'm glad you do know where I'm coming from... as I know there are a bunch that don't ... :-)

254 posted on 04/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: boatbums
I would, however, think that something as critical as national security cannot be left to the whims of one man!

They didn't. They gave Congress the power to declare war. But they gave the President the title of Commander in Chief. Things moved a lot slower then than now, but still they never thought a President would pledge not to defend the country, let alone against weapons that most of them could not imagine. (Franklin likely could imagine the use of poisons and disease as weapons).

272 posted on 04/05/2010 10:34:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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