[Longbow1969]

“The problem is that the divisions are not just between states in states. Get a county map. Essentially, the left is comprised of urban areas, some inner-ring suburbs, and Black and Latino rural counties.”

Yeah, that is the problem. Even in the red areas, the urban sectors are dominated by leftists. Once an area gets urbanized it tends to vote for socialists. It appears to be a collectivist mindset that develops along with urban zones just attracting a lot of leechers and generally useless people who can kinda blend in and mooch off productive folks.

I think there may be some hope for the Black and Latino rural areas, but the urban zones are utterly hopeless. Urban areas will have to be entirely rethought going forward in order to prevent this collectivist mindset from rising over and over and over again.

[panthermom]

You take the DC teat away and they leave.....they will self deport.

[Rytwyng]

Urban areas will have to be entirely rethought going forward in order to prevent this collectivist mindset from rising over and over and over again.

Ancient Ireland had an advanced level of culture, literacy, religion, enlightened laws, music, poetry, philosophy, real (non-leftist) social justice, etc - WITHOUT CITIES. Cities were not built til the Vikings arrived in the Middle Ages. It is possible to be highly cultured, educated, and moral without being "civilized" (=cityfied).

[Pining_4_TX]

That is the basic idea put forth in the book The Sovereign Individual - that the nation states are going to break up as the ability of smaller and smaller groups to use force increases. It predicts the possiblity of the re-emergence of city-states or march regions. It’s a very interesting take on history and the future.

[Bellflower]

We can divide the country up fairly and then do a population exchange. Liberals will be exchanged for Conservatives. Conservatives will be exchanged for liberals. You can live where you will feel most comfortable and identify with the political system. Once the decision is made you must live by the laws and constitution of the place you decide to call home. Obviously the Conservatives will adapt the current Constitution. What will the "liberals" do? Who knows, but most likely they will come under a dictatorship.

[x]

Urban areas will have to be entirely rethought going forward in order to prevent this collectivist mindset from rising over and over and over again.

Supposedly, the future is going to be decentralized exurban or semi-suburban communities. People will work from home and order online so big cities won't be as necessary as they once were and big city politics will wane as a factor.

As so often happens in politics, though, that doesn't mean a victory of one side over the other but a change in the terms of the disagreement. Those exurbs will be socially more liberal than today's rural communities, but it will be upscale, limosine liberalism.

As a worst case scenario, though, if big cities aren't needed any more it could lead to more violent clashes between urban and non-urban populations.