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To: P-Marlowe
You do realized that your position on the Trinity is not only heretical,

Go back to my listing a few posts ago. Find the false ones. Oh. They don't exist.

God cannot equal Christ and Christ cannot equal God if there is even one small difference.

Remember, it was the organized religious leaders of Christ's time that had him killed. The refuge of Satan has been in false religion since the fall of man.

Do you think Isreal fell to idolotry because they were stupid? No. They were tricked by (sincere) religious leaders who lead them astray bit by bit. Seduction by a counterfeit.

IMO the trinity has more in common with baal worship than with Christ.

There is one God. God is one.

That flies in the face of a three person godhead or a god that is three.

The Bible states clearly and unambiguously in dozens of places that Jesus is the son of God and that God is the father of Jesus.

Those clear and unambiguous verses should be the foundation for interpretation and not twisted to fit philosophies built on unclear or ambiguous verses, just as Leviticus 17:11 is clear about life being in the blood, I have to look at God being the invisible spirit father of Christ as a different entity than Christ.

Sons often resemble their fathers but they are not their father. If a son so perfectly represents his father in will and purpose then they are one. Jesus stated that his followers were one with him as well.

Jesus so perfectly represented the Father (since he is the sole mediator between men and God) that he was able to state that seeing him was (the same as) seeing the invisible father!

Most people accept what they are taught in church without question. The accept the illogical idea that one is three and three is one when they are told it is a mystery or that God can do what ever he wants and that we are not to question it.

My KJV says that God has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness (meaning an understanding and relationship with God) and so there may be things that we don't always understand but there should be nothing held back universally to prevent us from knowing and understanding God as He wants us to.

If me being an earthly father want good things for my kids and want them to know me, how much more can God want those same things?

Romans 10:9,10 are key to salvation. I believe them and also believe that they hold the conditions for salvation. You either do or you don't.

It is clear to me that Paul (who was a Jew of Jews) was totally monotheistic and understood the difference between God and Christ.

God sent Christ. Paul saw Christ. Paul did not see God since no man has seen God at any time. Christ cannot be God.

When the ambiguous verses are used for the foundation then there are numerous contradictions.

When the clear verses are used for the foundation then the ambiguous verses can be examined closely and the truth determined from them.

Bottom line is that if I am incorrect then I have wrongly divided the word of truth, but if trinitarians are wrong then they are worshipping in idolotry.

406 posted on 04/08/2010 5:33:29 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Do you attend a formal church which shares your position on the Trinity? The only formal religious organization of which I am aware which shares your view is the Jehovah’s Witnesses. If you are not a JW, then are you a member of any specific sect or denomination?

I am very curious about this.

Thanks

Marlowe


407 posted on 04/08/2010 5:52:55 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Eagle Eye
The Bible states clearly and unambiguously in dozens of places that Jesus is the son of God and that God is the father of Jesus.

The bible also describes Jesus as "The first and the last, the Alpha and the Omega, and the Almighty."

409 posted on 04/08/2010 6:13:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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