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To: Smokin' Joe; RogerQ
There is no necessary relationship between the GOP and conservatism.

Of course there is. Where else are you going to find conservative representation in government...some nonexistent pie-in-the-sky third party?

Just because it has been commandeered by liberals doesn't change the foundational purpose or history of the party. Conservatives need to take it back.

...(violent) racist right-wing extremists.

Those words don't even belong in the same phrase. Who is such a person?

A "right wing extremist" is pretty much a normal , freedom-loving, American Constitutionalist, a patriot. To the right of that would be a true anarchist (a benign, nonaffiliated, live in the woods hermit) .

The "right wing" are not racist, and the only way I can see them getting violent is as depicted on the Gadsen flag, by taking away their freedom.

Those who fought the British were such people, as are our troops and veterans.

If the tyrannical "left" is afraid of such Americans...they should be.

79 posted on 04/04/2010 5:48:12 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Deathcare, a solution desperately looking for a problem.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
There is no necessary relationship between the GOP and conservatism.

Of course there is. Where else are you going to find conservative representation in government...some nonexistent pie-in-the-sky third party?

Actually, I'm still looking for Conservative representation in Government.

Go ahead, name a few current examples, it shouldn't take long to type the names in. If you get past ten current office holders at the federal level, I'll be surprised. Of course, your definition of "Conservative" may differ from mine, I have seen quite a variety here.

...(violent) racist right-wing extremists. Those words don't even belong in the same phrase. Who is such a person?

Let's get the whole quote, shall we?

current MSM accounts which paint everyone to the Right of Hillary as (violent) racist right-wing extremists.

My entire point is that the MSM are trying to generate that specific image of TEA partiers, and in the media, appearances are everything.

The idea is to cow us all into submission by smearing us as something which only exists as a PSYOPS construct in the minds of those who suck up the pap the MSM spews from the tube and the upon the printed page.

Of course, the only way to combat that is for ordinary conservative people to NOT hide in the shadows out of fear of being branded as a non-existent entity, which is the opposite of the reaction the Alinskyites are seeking.

You see, it has worked before, when vast numbers of Americans questioned the Govenrment's actions at Waco, when gun owners and people who questioned a series of abuses of Federal power were connected in the image works of the press (and no where else) with those who bombed the Murragh Building in Oklahoma City. The press making that connection was no accident, nor a mistake, but a concerted effort to shut up conservatives who would never have bombed a building, especially when the AWB was looking like it was going to be repealed and both the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents were under investigation. There was nothing to gain, and the OK City bombing was turned into a propaganda victory for the DOJ, the FBI, and the BATF by deflecting animosity from the Feds and onto ordinary Americans who had questioned the abuse of Federal Power by making them out to be "violent right-winged extremists", and even throwing in a measure of alleged anti-semitism and racism to boot to add to the image.

While all image and only with very few exceptions completely unfounded in fact, the AGITPROP worked and effectively shut conservatives up.

The precedent for the MSM ascribing unfounded behaviours to large segments of the population has been established, and they are trying a repeat of those tactics.

WE know that there are very few, if any, real "violent racist right winged" people out there, but the media are trying to create that image of us all.

Cui bono?

One: the administration. They can justify violent acts of suppression of fundamental rights against people the MSM has branded as such. THey can further usurp power, and negate the opinions of people they have branded as such (even unjustifiably), and they can continue to press for the subjugation of people they do not agree with.

In addition, by insisting that TEA partiers fit their description, they can keep blacks from joining the ranks by adding to the intimidation of peer pressure for racial solidarity with the deterrent of painting TEA partiers as "racist".

While I agree the closest thing to a Conservative effective Political Party out there is the GOP, they aren't there. They have spent decades compromising, bipartisanship diluting their platform in practice, and have morphed into a relatively liberal organization compared to the days of Barry Goldwater.

I think we need to get back to our Constitutional roots, original intent, and severely reduce the size and scope of the Federal Government, and I haven't seen much of that from the GOP in the last 40 years. That said, I think the GOP will be the most likely vehicle for such a sea change, rather than a third party.

90 posted on 04/04/2010 12:03:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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