Roeder defends his killing of George Tiller at sentencing

Mcclatchy ^ | 4.1.10

[trumandogz]

WICHITA, Kan. — The judge considering the sentence of Scott Roeder, convicted of murdering abortion provider George Tiller, on Friday stopped Roeder from continuing to read a written statement after 40 minutes, saying "It is your opportunity to convince me you need a lesser sentence. It is not a soapbox for your political views."

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

As far as I am concerned,Roeder got rid of the current Dr.Mengele.I wonder what the number is now for all the children saved?

[mkjessup]

Roeder made his decision to shoot Tiller, the Judge made his decision on sentencing. God will have the final Say on who was, and who wasn’t in the right.

And I kindly direct everyone to my tagline.

[marron]

What makes a late term abortion worse than a first trimester abortion?

Nothing. Just the pretense is gone.

[Psalm 144]

Agreed.

[skeeter]

Well said.

[pyx]

The Judge interrupted the convicted man and said, "It is your opportunity to convince me you need a lesser sentence. It is not a soapbox for your political views."

I have two (2) questions;

What is the AVERAGE sentence for a first time offender convicted of first degree murder in Kansas ?

Why is someone given a greater sentence for making a political statement with which the Judge does not agree ? Conversely, is the Judge given the sentencing latitude to give Scott Roeder a lesser sentence, if Scott Roeder had made a political statement with which the Judge agreed or approved ?

[PLMerite]

“Tiller understood there was a high probability of his being killed when he took the job.”

“You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.” - Super Chicken

[Jerry Attrick]

Murder is murder. However, killing someone that is trying to kill another human being is,IMHO, defensible. No-one would think twice about someone who took out a person trying to choke a child to death (for instance).

Problem with our society is, the definition of “human being” is all screwed up.

[Secret Agent Man]

It totally destroys the libtards “viability” issue they raise quite often as to justify abortions.

[trumandogz]

The question of abortion is not about viability, but us rather about life and the fact that life begins at conception.

And that being the case, you cannot say that a third trimester abortion is worse than a first trimester abortion.

[trumandogz]

Roeder showed no remorse.

However, he will have a chance to show remorse when he goes before the parole board right before his 103rd birthday.

[pyx]

Please note, you didn't answer the two specific questions I asked.

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

“...he will have a chance to show remorse when he goes before the parole board right before his 103rd birthday.”

He will be standing speechless when he appears before the Judgement Seat.

[Rome2000]

The unborns John Brown

Today's retarded society notwithstanding.

GOD bless the INNOCENTS

[trumandogz]

I do not have such data at my disposal. However, Kansas is a law and order state and I doubt they typically give light prison sentences to those who commit premeditated murder and Roeder got what he deserved.

[marron]

you cannot say that a third trimester abortion is worse than a first trimester abortion.

In terms of the effect on the victim, no.

But early in the pregnancy people convince themselves that its juts a lump of cells.

If you can pull a baby out onto a table and kill it, though, you are a special kind if cold-blooded evil. Tiller could do what very few people could do, and go sit in church afterward. He was a very special piece of work, that guy.

[doc1019]

Hey Judge, as much as I disagree with murder, there is no soapbox for people who believe that abortion, especially late term abortion, is murdering children.

Been pondering your statement (for hours) and have yet to understand your position on abortion. Could you please explain your position. Are you pro abortion? Just wondering. Mix interpretation in my mind. A comma her, a period there makes a difference. Gosh, I wish I wasn't so ignorant.

Thanks in advance. Not looking to argue, just wishing I understood your posting a little better.

[Secret Agent Man]

Friend, reread the post. No kidding. I was answering him as to why THE LEFT has an issue with late term abortions re: viability.

[SoldierDad]

In my post (#4) I didn’t lay down my position regarding the issue of abortion. I was commenting on the judge’s retort to Roeder that the courtroom was not a place for him to stand on his “soapbox” and give his political position regarding abortion. My comment was aimed at pointing out that people who are against abortion, especially late-term abortion, have not been given a “soapbox” in which to present arguments against abortion.

As for my position? I am against the use of abortion as a means of birth control. And, I am stridently against the use of late-term abortion as IMHO this is nothing short of murder. The doctors who perform this “procedure” should be arrested, tried, and convicted of murder, as should be the women who allow the procedure to performed upon them. I can understand what Roeder did, and why. But, I do not condone the taking of another’s life through murder.

[SoldierDad]

What makes a late term abortion worse than a first trimester abortion?

While I am against the use of abortion as a means of birth control, I'd have to say that a late term abortion is worse in that the fetus, if not murdered and allowed to be completely birthed, would survive (if not for their brain being destroyed and sucked out with a vacuum hose). The destruction of human life, whether during the 1st trimester or 3rd trimester is wrong. The late-term abortion is just, IMHO, a more heinous method.