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Muni Threat: Cities Weigh Chapter 9
wsj ^ | FEBRUARY 18, 2010 | IANTHE JEANNE DUGAN AND KRIS MAHER

Posted on 04/01/2010 12:29:26 PM PDT by george76

Just days after becoming controller of financially strapped Harrisburg, Pa., in January, Daniel Miller began uttering an obscure term that baffled most people who had never heard it and chilled those who had: Chapter 9.

The seldom-used part of U.S. bankruptcy law gives municipalities protection from creditors while developing a plan to pay off debts.

Created in the wake of the Great Depression, Chapter 9 is widely considered a last resort and filings under it are more taboo than other parts of bankruptcy code because of the resulting uncertainty for everyone from municipal employees to bondholders.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bankruptcities; chapter9; harrisburg

1 posted on 04/01/2010 12:29:26 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Can they throw out union labor contracts and retirement plans?


2 posted on 04/01/2010 12:30:36 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: george76

...hmmm....isn’t Harrisburg the state capital?....not good for a state capital to go bust...especially a rich state like PA


3 posted on 04/01/2010 12:33:17 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Frantzie

My understanding is that, yes, debtors in a bankruptcy proceeding effectively can re-open and renegotiate contracts. A weighted majority of the secured and unsecured creditors must approve any final plan for emerging from bankruptcy, and typically employees are not SECURED creditors, although that gets dicey due to vested pension/ retirement/ health benefits.


4 posted on 04/01/2010 12:36:43 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: george76

Hey, Obama literally stole a TON from GM and Chrysler bond holders. So what’s the big deal? Isn’t Big Brother ALLOWED to steal from the serfs?


5 posted on 04/01/2010 12:37:12 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: george76

Six week old story. I would be interested in a more recent snapshot of Harrisburg.


6 posted on 04/01/2010 12:38:38 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: george76

In Harrisburg, which is Pennsylvania’s capital and has a population of about 47,000, a March 1 deadline is looming on a payment of $2 million out of the $68 million due this year for the financing of an incinerator plant. The facility has about $288 million in overall debt.
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Mkay. 68 million divided by 47 thousand is $1446 per resident, man, woman and child. Not taxpayer. Resident. I don’t know what the lunatic Democrats that run Harrisburg were thinking (it’s the capital of PA by the way) . . . but . . . they are nuts.


7 posted on 04/01/2010 12:38:41 PM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: Frantzie

WSJ: “U.S. bankruptcy judge Michael McManus, as the National law Journal reported last March, “held the city of Vallejo, Calif., has the authority to void its existing union contracts in its effort to reorganize.”

But when it came to voiding those contracts on pensions—a major driver of public expenses—the city blinked. The “workout plan” the city approved in December calls for cuts in services, staff and even some benefits, such as health benefits for retirees. However, it does not touch public-employee pensions. Indeed, it increases the pension contributions the city pays.”


8 posted on 04/01/2010 12:38:53 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: STONEWALLS; rabscuttle385; Lancey Howard; LucyT; neverdem; Liz; Candor7; BP2

Harrisburg, which is Pennsylvania’s capital ...

“Bankruptcy is inevitable,” Mr. Miller says. “We are in a terrible bind.” A budget passed Saturday by Harrisburg’s city council didn’t include any funds to cover the debt payments.

Mr. Miller, Harrisburg’s controller, also sees no way out of the financial squeeze. The city’s per-capita debt of $9,500 is the highest in Pennsylvania and triple the debt load of Philadelphia, he says. And selling parking facilities or other properties in a fire sale would cost Harrisburg future revenue.

“We can’t raise taxes; they’re already very high,” Mr. Miller says. “If we did, people would just leave. It’s cheaper to move out to the suburbs.”

http://finance.yahoo.com/taxes/article/108866/muni-threat-cities-weigh-chapter-9


9 posted on 04/01/2010 12:39:46 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: mlocher

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2010/04/harrisburg_nears_deal_for_repr.html


10 posted on 04/01/2010 12:40:12 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Thanks much for the link.

The draft agreement with Assured Guaranty Municipal Corp. would give the city and the other local entities exposed to the debt — including Dauphin County and the Harrisburg Authority, the incinerator’s owner — 90 days to hammer out a long-term plan to deal with the facility’s $282 million in debt

I find this very aggravating that the city does not have a solution to its problem. This has been known for several months. Naturally, the creditors may not have taken anything that was offered by the city in the past.

11 posted on 04/01/2010 12:49:43 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: george76

It will make it a lot easier for governments to fund their outrageous pension obligations if they don’t have to pay their bondholders.


12 posted on 04/01/2010 1:36:03 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: george76

Can a state, such as California, use Chapter 9?


13 posted on 04/01/2010 1:37:51 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: AZLiberty

I am not a lawyer.

This is new terrority for many of us.

Here is another view [he may be wrong ?}:

http://www.infowars.com/46-of-50-states-could-file-bankruptcy-in-2009-2010/


14 posted on 04/01/2010 1:54:52 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

use ch 9 to toss the labor contracts and pay bond holders as secured.


15 posted on 04/01/2010 5:25:07 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AZLiberty

hmmm defunding the SEIU.

what happens when mandatory union payments are no longer mandatory?


16 posted on 04/01/2010 5:26:21 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Woebama
"The facility has about $288 million in overall debt."

Sounds like one heck of a lot of debt for an incinerator plant. I can't imagine how an incinerator plant could possibly cost $288 million to build...maybe there's more to the plant than just an incinerator. There better be or else Harrisburg screwed up big time.

17 posted on 04/01/2010 8:56:58 PM PDT by your local physicist (Don't blame me. I wasn't fooled by anyone. I crossed my fingers and voted for McCain.)
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To: AZLiberty

I would think CA could use Chapter 9 in a total fiscal meltdown. More likely, however, is that the next governor ends up merely threatening all interest groups with Chapter 9 as a strategy to gain budget cuts and concessions from the state employee unions. The mere threat of contract cancellations could be all it takes to get all the interest groups to listen to reason.


18 posted on 04/01/2010 9:00:48 PM PDT by your local physicist (Don't blame me. I wasn't fooled by anyone. I crossed my fingers and voted for McCain.)
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To: your local physicist

On the plus side, they only need half as much landfill space.


19 posted on 04/02/2010 12:00:38 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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