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FReeper Book Club: The Debate over the Constitution
5 Oct 1787, Centinel #1
6 Oct 1787, James Wilson’s Speech at the State House
8 Oct 1787, Federal Farmer #1
9 Oct 1787, Federal Farmer #2
18 Oct 1787, Brutus #1
22 Oct 1787, John DeWitt #1
27 Oct 1787, John DeWitt #2
27 Oct 1787, Federalist #1
31 Oct 1787, Federalist #2
3 Nov 1787, Federalist #3
5 Nov 1787, John DeWitt #3
7 Nov 1787, Federalist #4
10 Nov 1787, Federalist #5
14 Nov 1787, Federalist #6
15 Nov 1787, Federalist #7
20 Nov 1787, Federalist #8

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Though not pertinent to Federalist #9, I have just posted on another thread some observations which do relate to Loud Mime's comment about the 20th and 21st Century move away from the Framers' divisions, limitations and protections in their structuring of government, as led by the so-called "Progressives" who now seem to be in temporary control. Here is the post:

"Public opinion sets bounds to every government, and is the real sovereign in every free one." - James Madison (known as "father" of the Constitution, Co-Author of THE FEDERALIST explanations of its principles and limitations, and President)

"The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." - John Adams (Signer of Declaration of Independence & President)

Yesterday, Michael Barone's "Washington Examiner" column contained this statement:

"Over the past 14 months, our political debate has been transformed into an argument between the heirs of two fundamental schools of political thought, the Founders and the Progressives. The Founders stood for the expansion of liberty and the Progressives for the expansion of government."

Barone has appropriately articulated and framed the current debate. Is the passion of a significant enough portion of American citizens today ordered LIBERTY?

Or, is there a majority whose motivating "passion" buys into the "Progressive" philosophy for expansion of government?

If the latter view prevails, America is on the sure path to the tyranny and oppression which has dominated in all parts of the world through most of recorded history.

The "Progressives" are not progressive at all. Theirs is the most "regressive" idea to surface in America since 1776. Their premise is flawed, because it relies on a counterfeit idea.

America became a place of refuge for the oppressed because its "passion" was for Creator-endowed individual liberty.