Much more appropriate had you posted Jefferson’s entire letter:
http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/P/tj3/writings/brf/jefl264.htm
Jefferson was horrified at the prospect of a civil war, he was not advocating it.
I didn’t make the reference to Lincoln’s proposed deportation to accuse him of being evil in his suggestion to rid America of its black population, but to point out the hypocrisy of Lincoln and those who claim the Civil War arose out of some noble Northern cause of freeing the slaves and making them full citizens of the United States. The Civil War was about the North asserting its power through enhancement of the Federal goverment. The fact that emancipation came as a corollory benefit of the Civil War does not excuse the damage Lincoln did to America (through the destruction of the war itself and the diminishment of States’ rights) or the evils of Jim Crow, which were a direct result of the forcible end of slavery. The population of the Southern states did not voluntarily end slavery, so they fought back in the ballot box after the end of Reconstruction. Had they been permitted the time to make this decision themselves, the full integration of blacks into American society would have had a much smoother transition and been more broadly accepted by the South’s population. Lincoln’s cannon ensured only that blacks would be kept down for another 100 years.
Nobody advocated a civil war. But you felt the need to take a slap at Lincoln for supporting voluntary emigration, no doubt to portray him as racist, and I was merely pointing out that Lincoln was not alone in in that field. That others advocated more extreme measures of forcibly removing freed blacks from the U.S. and moving them elsewhere, regardless of whether they wanted to go or not.
I didn’t make the reference to Lincoln’s proposed deportation to accuse him of being evil in his suggestion to rid America of its black population, but to point out the hypocrisy of Lincoln and those who claim the Civil War arose out of some noble Northern cause of freeing the slaves and making them full citizens of the United States.
Except that Lincoln never claimed that. So while you may have a valid point in criticizing those that do believe that, you should leave Lincoln out of that picture.
The Civil War was about the North asserting its power through enhancement of the Federal goverment.
The Civil War, from the Union side, was about preserving the Union, whole and undivided, as our parents and grandparents had passed it to us. That was the sole reason for pursuing that war that the confederacy had forced on the counrty. Slavery's end may have been a fortunate side-effect of that war but it was never the motivation for opposing the Southern rebellion. The only side motivated at all over slavery was the confederate.
The fact that emancipation came as a corollory benefit of the Civil War does not excuse the damage Lincoln did to America...
Exactly how did Lincoln damage America? Can you state specifics please?
...or the evils of Jim Crow, which were a direct result of the forcible end of slavery
Oh please. Similar laws and similar sentiments had been present in the South, as well as the North, long before the Southern rebellion and the end to slavery. And the idea that they were caused by losing the war, or that an independent confederacy would have ended slavery and welcomed the freed slaves as equals and bestowed upon them all the rights of a white man, is patently ridiculous.
Had they been permitted the time to make this decision themselves, the full integration of blacks into American society would have had a much smoother transition and been more broadly accepted by the South’s population.
Absolute nonsense.