This defeatist attitude has got to go. Just because your opponents decide to play hardball doesnt mean you take your glove and go home. Does the Constitution mean anything to us? or is it OK if some twit uses it for TP? Lose the secession talk. Focus on restoring what we still have, not tearing it apart because someone doesnt play by the rules. How will you feel when our newest citizens are granted the vote following amnesty, thus pretty much guaranteeing a democratic party majority for the foreseeable future?